Gloster CXP-1001 fighter and bomber project for Taiwan

Don't know if the above comments relate to my site but either way unfortunately at present I seem to have a problem there with potential malware notifications. I am presently trying to deal with this but it may take a while before Google clears it. In the mean time if you wish to see an image from this portfolio visit my picassa album at

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Re-reading Tony Buttler's 'Secret Projects: American Fighters' I noticed in the Summary the McDonnell 34 was a fighter proposal to China circa 1946.
Was this the American submission via the American Mission in competition with the Gloster CXP-1001?
Is there any specs for the McDonnell 36? It would be interesting to see if America had the same qualms about supplying jet technology to China.
 
Um, yep, the Screenworx URL was infected. Pometablava, you should have been more specific about which URL..
 
Safari blocks the following url's

http://www.screenworx.net/Aviationart
and
http://www.screenworx.net/Aviationart/PORTFOLIO/Pages/UNFRAMED_PRINTS.html#0

The Picassa album works fine.
BTW, very nice art Screenworx.
 
pometablava said:
Safari blocks the following url's

http://www.screenworx.net/Aviationart
and
http://www.screenworx.net/Aviationart/PORTFOLIO/Pages/UNFRAMED_PRINTS.html#0
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So does my Firefox. Interestingly MS IE does not.

Piotr
 
Well it should be clear, I have deleted and uploaded all files and checked my computer files with about 40 different malware detection schemes which all show them to be clear but at present I am awaiting my host to clarify anything suspect that may be happening on their servers so best to wait till then. I will let you know when I get the all clear. Thanks for the compliments and your patience.

Though I cant include the complete Aviation site on my back up site I can include much of the portfolio and that can be found on a completely different server at

http://www.war-paint.net/


Everything back to normal now so modifying link for anyone interested. Sorry about the problem.

Stuart
 
http://www.screenworx.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Stuart/Portfolio/Pages/Aviation_Art.html
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Stuart,

That link works fine from Safari
 
In regard to the McDonnell Model 36 of 1946, the proposal became the XP-88 upon acceptance by the U.S.A.A.F. which then became the XF-88 Voodoo with formation of the U.S.A.F. Please see: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p88.html. Can't find anything for a McDonnel Model 34 so far . . . however, Anigrand Craftswork makes an XF-88 in 1/72. You can find the model along with the dimensions and performance data at: http://www.anigrand.com/AA2058_XF-88.htm. Hope this helps! :)
 
Hood did a typo over Models 34 and 36, but he was right, and the Tony Buttler book is right too: the McDonnell Model 34 was indeed a fighter project for the Free Chinese Air Force (Taiwan) circa 1946, which makes it a very likely competitor of the Gloster design.
 
I do not often promote my own work on this site (as it is mostly made up of fictional/imaginary material) but this particular work will probably be of interest to some, at least I hope so. Since I wasn't satisfied with the various profiles and 3-view plans of the CXP-1001 at my disposal (most of which differed widely — and wildly — especially as far as the wing length was concerned), I decided to do one myself. I do not claim it to be perfect nor absolutely similar to the actual mock-up, of which no photo ever surfaced. I tried my best to make it coherent, using an old and very basic three-view as a reference point and adding to it from various sources. The panelling of the Sharkit model served as an inspiration, and the nose gear was snatched from a Meteor T.7, with a two-part hatch (many depictions show a single panel hatch, so I admit this was a matter of personal choice here as to which one seemed the most likely). Needless to say, I welcome any criticism, constructive remarks and suggestions.

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That's great work always frustrating trying to make sense from varying information. Nice to see something akin to all the formation being put forward here promote your work as much as you desire as far as I am concerned.
 
Stargazer2006 said:
Hood did a typo over Models 34 and 36, but he was right, and the Tony Buttler book is right too: the McDonnell Model 34 was indeed a fighter project for the Free Chinese Air Force (Taiwan) circa 1946, which makes it a very likely competitor of the Gloster design.
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Do you have any idea what Model 34 (i.e. the McDonnell's entry to the Chinese fighter competition) would have been? I've just looked into "McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920" but I found nothing on that project or the McDonnell's relations with China in the late 1940s.

Piotr
 
Thanks archipeppe!! B)

While investigating some other subject today, I realized that one of McDonnell's chief designers, Constantine L. Zakharchenko, had designed the XP-1 forward-swept gull-wing fighter in China just before returning to the U.S. on January 9, 1943 when his contract expired. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a connection here to explain why, of all U.S. companies, McDonnell would be the one submitting a fighter design for Free China a few years later.
 
I've just googled a website on the CXP-1001 http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1387742-1-1.html which is in Chinese (!) and translated it (using Google Translate, of course). It says very interesting things:

After the Nationalist government fled to Taiwan to settle down again to continue the development work of the XCP-1001, after all, has invested a lot of money. In 1949, the Bureau of the KMT government's aviation industry independent trial of the XCP-1001 optional "Brent" centrifugal jet engine, and completed in 1952, Brent 2 "engine design drawings and proofing modification, while completion of engine test platform design and aircraft fuel system test equipment design. Part of the design of the XCP-1001 aircraft also completed the same year. However, due to the loss of a large number of personnel, materials, equipment, and lost the help of the Gloster Aircraft Company. Basically come to a halt in 1953 XCP-1001 development work. Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the U.S. government began to arm Taiwan, Taiwan's exports to the world's advanced F-86 Sabre jet fighter, the KMT government formally abandoned the XCP-1001 development program. China's first jet fighter died.
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Naturally the translation is not perfect, but my understanding of what you may see above is that the development of the CXP-1001 (or XCP-1001 as the aircraft is being referred to in the text) was continued in Taiwan after 1949 and was terminated only in 1953, when the RoC could purchase F-86s from the US.

What do you think about it?

Regards,
Piotr
 
I was thinking about something like that. The kit has Meteor style u/c too, but I've read that the CXP.1001 derived from the Gloster E1/44 which had straight u/c legs. Does anyone know what was actually proposed for it ?
 
Anyone know how deep cleaned the British Gloster archives are on this thing or is one to head over to Taiwan?
 
The surviving Gloster archive is pretty small, enough to fill a room approx. 2m x 2m x 2m. I’ve not looked for any info on the CXP project, there might be a file or two but I’d be surprised if there’s more. For a private venture project like this I expect there’s nothing in RAE. The other place to look would be Taiwan, as it would be typical for the customer to take everything they could and indeed paid for.
 
The Jet Age Museum archive can be searched on The National Archives' Discovery catalogue (I only found this out last week!).

Searching for CXP gives 10 records.

Search results: cxp | The National Archives

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Their contact email is: contact@jetagemuseum.org
 

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