German WW2 “SEEDRACHE“ Torpedoboat Project

[moin1900]

Hello everybody

I'm searching for a 3view or drawing of the German “SEEDRACHE“ Torpedoboat Project
It should be a catamaran like torpedoboat with two or four torpedoes and it is powered by a turbine or Pulsejet something like the Jumo004 or Argus As014! ((UP to 50 kts Speed!!!))

Thanks in advance

 

[Justo Miranda]

Please see attached some drawings of German jet propelled fast boat


Turbojet Tragflügelboot Projekt

The Project 5b was the final evolution step of the K-Verband developments for a small hydrofoil attack boat. The design was almost identical to the Hydrofoil Project, but two turbojets were added to increase the speed of the final attack and disengaging phase.
Although tests with a jet powered boat ("Tornado", 1944) showed several problems with this kind of propulsion - only usable at calm sea and serious control problems - the addition of turbojets was seen as a possible solution to increase the chance to survive an attack against allied ships.
None of these futuristic boats was ever build

 

[airman]

i know last project, i had seen on "Eserciti nella Storia" (a magazine of Delta Editrice), well last Tornado was tryed on Peenemünde with a speed of 48 knots with calm sea , the boat was radio guided by a mother boat , was armed with 700 kg of explosive and this prototype was destroyed until invasion of russian troops !
reference : Eserciti nella Storia - Luglio/Agosto 2002 (printed by Delta Editrice) :
i am forgetting this catamaran had an engine Argus and was based on two floats of a Junkers 52 (version idro is obvious ! )
All version of Tornado were tryed but only version with two floats had good performance !

 

[moin1900]

Hello everybody
Thanks for the beautiful pictures!

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

I'm searching for a 3view of the KS HYDRA !
Is there anybody who can help me?

Many greetings and thanks in advance

 

[moin1900]

Re: German WW2 "HYDRA" Torpedoboat Project

Hi everybody

Some more information about the "Hydra"
Please look here
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=20137&hilit=Hydra

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

I have found something new about the “Seedrache” / “Sea-Kite”
The “Sea-Kite” (Driesen-System) consisted of two “Hydra” hulls, coupled together by
Wing-surfaces.

 

[RP1]

Hmmm. I think some artistic license has been taken with the size of the foils for the 5b.

moin1900 - the Sea-Kite was either a catamaran with hydrofoils between the hulls - which is used in a couple of modern designs - or alternatively a catamaran with an aerofoil surface between the hulls. The latter rings a (quiet) bell, in that I seem to recall some German work on this.

RP1

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

To RP1 Thanks for your reply .
Maybe like this ?
Boeing Fresh-1
http://www.foils.org/gallery/large.htm

 

[Justo Miranda]

Found "Hydra" info ...

 

[Orionblamblam]

Hmmm. I think some artistic license has been taken with the size of the foils for the 5b.

It seems to match the drawings I have.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Found 5b drawings

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

THANKS A LOT ! JUSTO

Many greetings

 

[Justo Miranda]

Here some tragflügel torpedo projects

 

[Orionblamblam]

Any dimensions for that third (manned) one?

 

[RP1]

Found 5b drawings

Something is not right about this - those foils are *very* small, even for 50 knots.

RP1

 

[Justo Miranda]

Any dimensions for that third (manned) one?

Here Sk 116 data

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

Thank you so much ! JUSTO ! You are GREAT !
There was also another "Klein-Torpedoträger" The "Zisch" torpedo boat
Another rocket powered boat was the Schertel-Sachsenberg VS-13 demolition boat !

THANKS A LOT and Many greetings

 

[Orionblamblam]

Any dimensions for that third (manned) one?

Here Sk 116 data

Thanks!

 

[Justo Miranda]

VS-13 probably VS-13 is Sk 113

 

[huckebein]

Justo, what book are these scans taken from?
I must obtain a copy.


Thanks,

Guenter

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hi Guenter
Unfortunately I will not be able to help you.
The source is also unknown for me.
I have a file full of photocopies coming from a record bought to someone else.
I will patiently post the information I have,hoping that someone may be able to help us idnetify the book.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 81
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 86
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 89 "Kobra"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 90 "Kobra"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 91 "Schlitten I" and Sk 92 "Schlitten II"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 93
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 94 "Wal I"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 95 "Wal II"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 97 "Wal III"
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 98
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

"Hydrofoils of the Third Reich"
from "Aviation & Marine" unknown date

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 106 and Sk 107
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 108
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 99
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 100
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 101
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[Justo Miranda]

Sk 102
From unknown source

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sk 109 , 110 & 111
From unknown source