German Independent Designers

[Avimimus]

Also mentioned here: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11648.msg111211.html#msg111211

 

[hesham]

Hi,

does anyone know Kormoran Ko.1 Airplane ?.

 

[Avimimus]

I don't suppose anyone knows where one can find the length of the Schnell Ko.Ro 5?

We have the wingspan, chord, and aspect ratio, as well as the aileron span, and the overall weight... but we lack data on the fuselage.

 

[hesham]

I don't suppose anyone knows where one can find the length of the Schnell Ko.Ro 5?

We have the wingspan, chord, and aspect ratio, as well as the aileron span, and the overall weight... but we lack data on the fuselage.

all Info about it.

 

[hesham]

And;

 

[hesham]

Hi,

does anyone hear about Milbert tailless glider,called Honsa ?.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201942%2009.pdf

 

[richard]

From "Flugsport Nr 21/1933 :

The W.Milbert "Hansa" type . It was named "Hamburg 52"

 

[Wurger]

Very interesting, Richard. Thanks!

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Richard.

 

[Wurger]

Funny, the line drawing shows only one midwing winglet, but the photo captures two, remarkably, assymetrical winglets?

 

[hesham]

Hi,

does anyone hear about Hüttner steam-powered airplane of 1933 ?,never completed.

 

[hesham]

does anyone hear about Hüttner steam-powered airplane of 1933 ?,never completed.

maybe related to this subject ?;

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.577.6695&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

[hesham]

From L'Air 1927,

here is a monoplane designed by Roter Vogel.

http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft33495.htm

 

[dan_inbox]

Hesham,
Roter Vogel is the name of the plane. It means Red Bird in German.
As the text says, the designer is the company Bäumer Aero GmbH.

check http://adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/Baeumer_Roter_Vogel.pdf

 

[hesham]

Oh Sorry.

 

[hesham]

Hesham,
Roter Vogel is the name of the plane. It means Red Bird in German.
As the text says, the designer is the company Bäumer Aero GmbH.

check http://adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/Baeumer_Roter_Vogel.pdf

From the same source,

we know Honnover H.1,H.2,H.6 & H.8 gliders,was there any Info about the missing
numbers ?.

http://www.liquisearch.com/list_of_gliders/a/akaflieg_hannover

 

[richard B]

Akaflieg Hannover H.5

https://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=2207

Akaflieg Hannover H.7

https://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=4303

H.3 "Mucki" was a sailplane built in 1922 ; H.4 was a hang glider built in 1924 : I would be very glad to see pictures of both ...

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Richard.

 

[dan_inbox]

j2mcl-planeurs.net is a great site. You can filter freely in the 1st field.
Here is the list they have for Akaflieg Hannover:

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Dan.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Mr. Rudolph Chillingworth was a designer,and he created some aircraft and one helicopter.

 

[hesham]

From, ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT HANDBOOKS AND HISTORY VOLUME 13,

here is an Info about Mr. A. Proll,and his idea for helicopter transferred of normal aircraft ?.

 

[hesham]

From L'Air 1926,

here is a strange design for a three engined transport monoplane,maybe only one built,and called W.3,created by Ernst Gerbrecht.

Gerbrecht W.3

 

[hesham]

here is a strange design for a three engined transport monoplane,maybe only one built,and called W.3,created
by Ernst Gerbrecht.

Gerbrecht W.3

And if someone knows the early aircraft to this designer,W.1 & W.2 ?.

 

[hesham]

here is the Kussner transatlantic transport aircraft projects,the first was
a four engined (three tractor and one pusher) and a three fuselages,the
second was a six-engined aircraft (three tractor and three pusher) and twin
fuselage,all details are here;
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6554624h/f10.image

For this designer,it seemed to be he had a series,and please see those two different designs,
very similar in their configurations,called Entwurf F ,and the anther concept called Entwurf D .

From Icaro 2/1929

 

[hesham]

From L'Aeronautique Paris 1923,

this designer Gustav Schulze created a two-seat parasol wing
sporting monoplane,powered by one 50-60 hp Anzani engine,
I don't know if he had anther aircraft and Projects after WWI
or not ?.

 

[richard B]

Уголок неба ¦ Hüffer HSE.I Bajadere

https://adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/hueffer-flugzeugbau-muenster-paderborn-krefeld-werksgeschichte-flugzeugtypen.pdf

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Richard,

but why them mentioned Schulze in it ?.

 

[richard B]

Hüffer bought in 1920 the Flugzeugwerke Gustav Schulze .

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/early-german-projects-prototypes.22491/page-4#post-349522

 

[Maveric]

Bernhard Scheller from Celle, S.IV/31 "Jörg"

 

[Maveric]

a very rare picture of a little known sport aircraft from the Segelflugverein Saarbrücken

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I don't know if that a German designer or not,he invented a gyroplane in 1934,and he
was called Mr. Theodor Mohring ?.

http://kulturserver-nds.de/home/hubtest/medien/Typenkartei3953xGUN7x9T3Z7.pdf

 

[Apophenia]

I don't know if that a German designer or not...

Yes, Dipl-Ing Theodor Mohring was based in Stuttgart.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I don't know if strange convertiplane,it was from Germany ?,the designer was Mr. Anton Waldhauser ?.

http://kulturserver-nds.de/home/hubtest/medien/Typenkartei3953xGUN7x9T3Z7.pdf

 

[richard B]

From "Der Deutsche Sportflieger (1944) "

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 1936,

here is a lightweight Monoplane,looks like a Mignet Pou-de-Ciel and powered by one 18 hp Koller
engine,designed by Mr. Beyer in a school at Weimar,I don't know if it was built or not.

 

[richard B]

It was built :

 

[Retrofit]

Very interesting Hesham & Richard B !
Do you know if there is a relationship between this Beyer designer and Dc Waldemar Beyer who, in 1932, designed a tailless glider inspired by Lippisch works (glider built by the Rhön Rossitten Gesellschaft and registrated D-KRISCHAN)?
Thanks in advance.

 

[richard B]

Very interesting Hesham & Richard B !
Do you know if there is a relationship between this Beyer designer and Dc Waldemar Beyer who, in 1932, designed a tailless glider inspired by Lippisch works (glider built by the Rhön Rossitten Gesellschaft and registrated D-KRISCHAN)?
Thanks in advance.

Sorry , I can't find anything about the Beyer who designed the Zaunkönig at Weimar ...

 

[woodville]

Hi,
According to Bruno Lange (Typenhandbuch der deutschen Luftfahrttechnik) under the heading "Ingenieur-Schule Weimar, Thüringen" (page 176), Prof Dipl-Ing Waldemar Beyer built a tandem monoplane (named Zaunkönig = wren) in 1935/1936. It was tested at Erfurt. Under the heading for DFS (page114) Dipl-Ing W Beyer built a motorglider called Motorzögling at Rossitten. It was demonstrated at Königsberg in 1932.