Flying Cars And Roadable Aircraft

Plus there is one aspect we have overlooked until now: to ride a bike you don't need a license. To drive an electric city car you only need a limited certificate. But to fly a roadable aircraft you'd need a proper flying license. And considering how expensive these are to obtain, I can't imagine many people will go through the whole process...
 
Stargazer2006 said:
Kartek said:
People today are not responsible enough to let loose upon our airspace. People can't even park without embarrassing the human race.
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That is just so true.

Kartek said:
If a flying car becomes available I want a drivable aircraft so I can stay out of thier way.
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Brilliant concept! Remember however that as a driving pilot you're not immune from irresponsible flying drivers crashing and falling down from mid-air straight over you!!!
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That's what the ZSU-23 turret would be for ;-)
 
Jemiba said:
The only way to make the concept of a "flying car" feasible, to my opinion is: No
controls for the driver at all ! Perhaps you can use something like a car sharing system,
book your vehicle, get it at the next suitable point (why not heli pads on buildings ?),
and leaves it at the nearest possible point to your destination. You are just a passenger
then, with less possibilities to interfere, than in a bus, where at least the driver could be
threatened. The control system capsuled and armoured, all attempts to manipulate it
would immediately result in a landing at the next police station with the vehicle locked !
Ah, and let's not forget integrated detectors for explosives to prevent suicide attacks !
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Sounds like a flying subway.
But what if you change your mind? What if, on the way home, your sweetie calls to tell you to pick up a jar of pickles?
 
Kartek said:
But what if you change your mind? What if, on the way home, your sweetie calls to tell you to pick up a jar of pickles?
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Just call the operator, identify yourself (maybe not needed, as surely monitored via camera all the time) and tell
him your wish for another destination !
Iwould rather call it "Flying taxi", although distances probably would be greater, than covered by car today. Pretty sure
the big cities will grow more and more and suburbs could be as far away as 100 miles, I think. So perhaps there could
be a market for some of the more wealthy people. And a flying license won't be neded of course, as you don't need a
drivers license for using a taxi neither.
 
Small pods traveling at high speed in high-running transparent tubes... like the pneumatic mail our grandfathers sometimes used in their companies... Scifi is full of such depictions... Maglev-type locomotion can also be considered... ;)
 
Soviet flying car concept from the 1970s. No further details available at this time.

SovietFlyingCar.jpg

(h/t dynachrome over at Free Republic)
 
No recognisable engines, at least not for the amount of thrust needed for that wingless design...
Looks more like a case for the "Imagination of the future from the past" to me. ;)
 
Jemiba said:
Other ideas without practical sense:
The Aviauto, designed by de la Fourniere. The car is a removable gondola
of a twin engined light aircraft. Even in the magazine, where I've found
this drawing, the question was raised, if using a conventional light transport
like the Miles Aerovan wouldn't be a more practical solution ... ::)

(from Der Flieger 1951)
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Hi,


here is the Fourniere Aviauto flying car model.
 

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Hi,


here is the Labat flying car project,from Aerophile magazine.
 

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Sorry for that,


but I always use the JPEG system or program,and I don't know it is not
clear enough.
 
Thank, you ! With the bytes trickling in a about 25 kbps now I saw, that the inventor was "M.Y. Labat",
whereas the Aeroblic designs came from Ivan Labat. Probably two different persons.
Or could "M.Y. " mean "Monsieur Yvan", so just another spelling ?
 
Jemiba said:
Thank, you ! With the bytes trickling in a about 25 kbps now I saw, that the inventor was "M.Y. Labat",
whereas the Aeroblic designs came from Ivan Labat. Probably two different persons.
Or could "M.Y. " mean "Monsieur Yvan", so just another spelling ?
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It is Mr. Yvan Labat, no doubt. A couple of issues before the article, they state in the editorial that Mr. Yvan Labat sent them a new design of his.
 
Hi. Topical but slightly off topic, but related anyway. "Where is my flying car?", lecture @ AAAS.

[extract]

"Krauss, a renowned theoretical physicist and science popularizer, was giving his talk, "Physics of the future," on Feb. 14 at AAAS as part of a session titled "Where's my flying car? Science, science fiction and a changing vision of the future."

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source: Staff Writers (Chicago, Il) "Is truth stranger than fiction? Yes, especially for science-fiction ", space-tracel.com ; Feb 17, 2014, http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Is_truth_stranger_than_fiction_Yes_especially_for_science_fiction_999.html

A.
 
Came across this earlier. Anyone have any more info? All I know is what is in the video.
Can't see it being very practical - it appears to be propelled on the road by the thrust from the prop. Might struggle to get type approval... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNp_iO-2Jfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
Hi Shedofdread :)
Beautiful and very clear video!. Thanks
This is the unique AER-1 by Aernova of Italy. The design is by Luigi Pellarini.
First flight 9 May 1948 and 125hp Lycopming O-290 engine.
 
walter said:
Hi Shedofdread :)
Beautiful and very clear video!. Thanks
This is the unique AER-1 by Aernova of Italy. The design is by Luigi Pellarini.
First flight 9 May 1948 and 125hp Lycopming O-290 engine.
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Many thanks :) I'm presuming L.P. is he of 'Airtruck' fame...?
 
shedofdread said:
Came across this earlier. Anyone have any more info? All I know is what is in the video.
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Such a splendid design! Thanks a lot for sharing. To me somehow it has the same elegance as the Piaggio P.136 gull-winged amphibian, another Italian design and one of my all-time favorite aircraft.
 
Hi Shedofdread :)
Indeed the L.P. of Airtruck fame. Mr. Pellarini was very active in Australia and had several other designs see the light in that country. I know of following PL-xx designs.
PL-1C, PL-2C and PL-3C developed in Italy collaboration with Carrozzeria Colli. I think that only the PL-2C was actually built-flown. The PL-2C had twin fins on a single tail boom.
PL-4 may have been de designer`s designation of the Aernova AER-1
PL-5C by Aerauto. Very similar to the PL-2C, but single fin
PL-7 the Kingsford-Smith Airtanker built in Australia
PL-10 posibly connected with the Victa R-2 built in Australia
PL-11 the Waitomo/Bennett Airtruck (spelled with a c) in New Zealand
PL-12 the Airtruk (no c)/Skyfarmer in Australia
PL-13 the Victa R-2 built in Australia and reportedly designation for a planned production variant.
Please feel free to add other PL-xx designations. Keen to keep learning ;)
 
walter said:
Hi Shedofdread :)
Indeed the L.P. of Airtruck fame. Mr. Pellarini was very active in Australia and had several other designs see the light in that country. I know of following PL-xx designs.
PL-1C, PL-2C and PL-3C developed in Italy collaboration with Carrozzeria Colli. I think that only the PL-2C was actually built-flown. The PL-2C had twin fins on a single tail boom.
PL-4 may have been de designer`s designation of the Aernova AER-1
PL-5C by Aerauto. Very similar to the PL-2C, but single fin
PL-7 the Kingsford-Smith Airtanker built in Australia
PL-10 posibly connected with the Victa R-2 built in Australia
PL-11 the Waitomo/Bennett Airtruck (spelled with a c) in New Zealand
PL-12 the Airtruk (no c)/Skyfarmer in Australia
PL-13 the Victa R-2 built in Australia and reportedly designation for a planned production variant.
Please feel free to add other PL-xx designations. Keen to keep learning ;)
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Hi Walter,

For Pellarini aircraft,please see;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18416.msg176806.html#msg176806
 
A flying automobile,by Carl Gorton
 

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borovik said:
Chaika -"The Seagull" (1960-1962)
GAZ Gorky Automobile Plant, with the participation of TsAGI.
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And a couple of flying platforms developed under the leadership of I.Bratuhin in 1958, is a four screw jeep off mass of 1200kg and heavy flying platform with a mass of 40 tons of cargo, (the latter however is this topic very conventional ratio)) (magazine Vertolet #2-06)
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Hi,


here is a ducted fan roadable vehicle,looks like a Russian design,which displayed by my
dear Borovik,page 123;


http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=oNgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA122&dq=popular+mechanics+ducted+fan&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dugKVOfXGcvMygPxmIC4Dw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=popular%20mechanics%20ducted%20fan&f=false
 

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Roadable maybe, if a kind of trolley and a drawbar would be used ..... ;)
But somehow I'm missing any mention of this design being roadable .
 
I'm sure I don't want either flying cars or roadable aircraft. Someone else said it already, and I'll reiterate it: most drivers have trouble thinking in two dimensions, now you want to add another?
 
Skyblazer said:
Small pods traveling at high speed in high-running transparent tubes... like the pneumatic mail our grandfathers sometimes used in their companies... Scifi is full of such depictions... Maglev-type locomotion can also be considered... ;)
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Logan's Run :)

0:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USADM5Gk9Gs&t=0m32s

 
While we're on the subject, from an old closed topic:

- - MAC-1; a low speed high capacity conveyor type system for use
in such Major Activity Centers as central business districts
and terminals.

- - MAC-2; a low speed, medium capacity, personal-vehicle-onguideway
system for use in central business districts and
terminals.

- - Dial-A-Bus; a computer-scheduled jitney-size vehicle designed
to provide door-to-door service in low density areas characterized
by diffused origin-destination trips.

- - PAS; a Personalized Automobile Service which uses small battery
operated autos at depots 500 to 1000 feet apart in low density
areas for local travel.

- - NET 1-2; an urban wide Network of guideways 1 or 2 miles apart
for fully automated continuous auto type vehicle flow at 50 to
70 miles per hour.

- - NET 3; a second generation NET development to permit street to
guideway access to vehicles.

- - FTL-1; a Fast Transit Link designed to provide high velocity
(100 to 140 MPH), high capacity travel between major centers
for trips up to 50 miles.

- - FTL-2; service similar to FTL-1 with velocities of up to 300 MPH
based on use of evacuated tunnels to reduce drag.

- - HSR-A; intercity rail systems based on improvements to vehicles
and existing track which will allow maximum speeds of 150 MPH.

- - HSR-C; completely new rail system designed to provide maximum
speeds of 200 MPR.

- - TACV; a guideway and air cushion vehicle system for intercity
travel at maximum speeds of 300 MPH.

- - TVS; vehicles traveling on continuous tracks in reduced pressure
tunnels at intercity speeds of up to 400 miles per hour.

- - Auto-Pallet; fully automated individual flow pallets which bodily
transport automobiles for intercity travel at speeds of up
to 130 miles per hour.

Technological Forecast: 1975-2000. A Descriptive Outlook and Method for Quantitative Prediction May 1970
US Department of Transportation, Office of Systems Analysis and Information
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To my opinion, it doesn't look flyable, but rather reminds me on a jez driven
record car.
 
hesham said:
Hi,


here is a ducted fan roadable vehicle,looks like a Russian design,which displayed by my
dear Borovik,page 123;


http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=oNgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA122&dq=popular+mechanics+ducted+fan&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dugKVOfXGcvMygPxmIC4Dw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=popular%20mechanics%20ducted%20fan&f=false
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IIRC, it's from Popular Mechanics about 1984 and refers to Moller's early work when the Skycar was more of a flying saucer type than the present design.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=plNO7fntQkY

http://jalopnik.com/yay-another-fucking-flying-car-1638812645/+mattnovak

(Linked article is a trifle pessimistic on the prospects of flying cars in general.)​
 

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