Espana class Modernization proposal

This is not a modernization project but an Spaniard evolved project of the España-class from 1912.
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  • Reference year: 1912.
  • Ship type: Mini-Super-Dreadnought (?).
  • Total ships projected: 9.
  • Names of the ships: Castilla, León, Granada, Seville, Valencia, Aragón, Vasconia, Cantabria and Galicia.
  • Dimensions: 132 x 23.5 x 8.0 m.
  • Displacement: 12,400 lt.
  • Power: 40,000 hp.
  • Speed: 28 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (620 kg projectiles).
  • Secondary armament: 8 (8x1) 152 mm.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1).
Complete project incluided the mentioned 9 battleships plus the 3 España (in shipyards). The proposal reject the idea of 12x356 super-dreadnought vessels, but favor the option of dividing these guns into several small battleships.

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For comparison, there were two similar mini-super-dreadnought designs for Peru, Vickers 512 and Vickers 513 of February 1911.
Vickers 512
  • Dimensions: 128 x 21 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: -.- hp.
  • Speed: 21 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 4 (2x2) 356/45 mm.
  • Secondary armament: 12 (12x1) 120/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 4 (4x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 4 (4x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1) 53 cm.
Vickers 513
  • Dimensions: 119 x 22 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: 12.560 hp.
  • Speed: 19 kn.
  • Belt protection: 178 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (maybe triple turrets).
  • Secondary armament: 14 (14x1) 102/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 2 (2x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 2 (2x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 2 (2x1) 53 cm.

Source: Revista de Marina, 1912.
 
COLDOWN said:
Complete project incluided the mentioned 9 battleships plus the 3 España (in shipyards). The proposal reject the idea of 12x356 super-dreadnought vessels, but favor the option of dividing these guns into several small battleships.
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Very interesting! Could you please say which exactly volume of "Revista de Marina" it was?

P.S. Looks like upper two pics are broken.
 
Dilandu said:
Very interesting! Could you please say which exactly volume of "Revista de Marina" it was?

P.S. Looks like upper two pics are broken.
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Publication: "Revista General de Marina".
Year: "1912".
Volume "LXXI" (71).
Month: "Octubre" (October)
Pages: 524-528*.

*Scheme has no number page. It is after the article.
 
COLDOWN said:
Это не проект модернизации, а испанский проект, усовершенствованный на основе проекта класса «Эспанья» 1912 года .
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ORe7NTc.png

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Посмотреть: https://i.imgur.com/ORe7NTc.png
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  • Год отчёта: 1912.
  • Тип корабля: Мини-Супер-Дредноут (?).
  • Всего запланировано кораблей: 9.
  • Названия кораблей: Кастилья, Леон, Гранада, Севилья, Валенсия, Арагон, Васкония, Кантабрия и Галисия.
  • Размеры: 132 х 23,5 х 8,0 м.
  • Водоизмещение: 12 400 л.
  • Мощность: 40 000 л.с.
  • Скорость: 28 узлов.
  • Защита ремня: 229 мм.
  • Основное вооружение: 6 (2x3) 356/45 мм (620 кг снарядов).
  • Вспомогательное вооружение: 8 (8x1) 152-мм.
  • Торпедные аппараты: 4 (4х1).
Полный проект включал в себя упомянутые 9 линкоров плюс 3 España (на верфях). Предложение отвергает идею 12x356 супердредноутов, но поддерживает вариант разделения этих орудий на несколько небольших линкоров.

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Для сравнения, в феврале 1911 года для Перу существовало два похожих проекта мини-супердредноутов: Vickers 512 и Vickers 513.
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Виккерс 512
  • Размеры: 128 x 21 x 7,0 м.
  • Водоизмещение: 11 500 л.
  • Мощность: -.- л.с.
  • Скорость: 21 узел.
  • Защита ремня: 229 мм.
  • Основное вооружение: 4 (2x2) 356/45 мм.
  • Вспомогательное вооружение: 12 (12x1) 120/50 мм.
  • Третьестепенное вооружение: 4 (4x1) 76-мм орудия.
  • Пулеметы: 4 (4х1) 37-мм «пом-пом».
  • Торпедные аппараты: 4 (4x1) 53 см.
Виккерс 513
  • Размеры: 119 x 22 x 7,5 м.
  • Водоизмещение: 11 500 л.
  • Мощность: 12.560 л.с.
  • Скорость: 19 узлов.
  • Защита ремня: 178 мм.
  • Основное вооружение: 6 (2x3) 356/45 мм ( возможно трехорудийные башни).
  • Вспомогательное вооружение: 14 (14x1) 102/50 мм.
  • Третье вооружение: 2 (2x1) 76-мм.
  • Пулеметы: 2 (2х1) 37-мм «пом-пом».
  • Торпедные аппараты: 2 (2x1) 53 см.
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Источник: Revista de Marina, 1912.
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Опубликуйте в теме «Проекты кораблей Ansaldo» https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/ansaldo-ship-designs.5978/post-428127
COLDOWN said:
This is not a modernization project but an Spaniard evolved project of the España-class from 1912.
ORe7NTc.png

ORe7NTc.png

https://imgur.com/ORe7NTc
View: https://i.imgur.com/ORe7NTc.png
or https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...d05cba4fe69c91b34751375d765f7bc37f8645a99b72&
  • Reference year: 1912.
  • Ship type: Mini-Super-Dreadnought (?).
  • Total ships projected: 9.
  • Names of the ships: Castilla, León, Granada, Seville, Valencia, Aragón, Vasconia, Cantabria and Galicia.
  • Dimensions: 132 x 23.5 x 8.0 m.
  • Displacement: 12,400 lt.
  • Power: 40,000 hp.
  • Speed: 28 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (620 kg projectiles).
  • Secondary armament: 8 (8x1) 152 mm.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1).
Complete project incluided the mentioned 9 battleships plus the 3 España (in shipyards). The proposal reject the idea of 12x356 super-dreadnought vessels, but favor the option of dividing these guns into several small battleships.

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For comparison, there were two similar mini-super-dreadnought designs for Peru, Vickers 512 and Vickers 513 of February 1911.
Vickers 512
  • Dimensions: 128 x 21 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: -.- hp.
  • Speed: 21 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 4 (2x2) 356/45 mm.
  • Secondary armament: 12 (12x1) 120/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 4 (4x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 4 (4x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1) 53 cm.
Vickers 513
  • Dimensions: 119 x 22 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: 12.560 hp.
  • Speed: 19 kn.
  • Belt protection: 178 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (maybe triple turrets).
  • Secondary armament: 14 (14x1) 102/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 2 (2x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 2 (2x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 2 (2x1) 53 cm.

Source: Revista de Marina, 1912.
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very similar design:
COLDOWN said:
This is not a modernization project but an Spaniard evolved project of the España-class from 1912.
ORe7NTc.png

ORe7NTc.png

https://imgur.com/ORe7NTc
View: https://i.imgur.com/ORe7NTc.png
or https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...d05cba4fe69c91b34751375d765f7bc37f8645a99b72&
  • Reference year: 1912.
  • Ship type: Mini-Super-Dreadnought (?).
  • Total ships projected: 9.
  • Names of the ships: Castilla, León, Granada, Seville, Valencia, Aragón, Vasconia, Cantabria and Galicia.
  • Dimensions: 132 x 23.5 x 8.0 m.
  • Displacement: 12,400 lt.
  • Power: 40,000 hp.
  • Speed: 28 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (620 kg projectiles).
  • Secondary armament: 8 (8x1) 152 mm.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1).
Complete project incluided the mentioned 9 battleships plus the 3 España (in shipyards). The proposal reject the idea of 12x356 super-dreadnought vessels, but favor the option of dividing these guns into several small battleships.

---

For comparison, there were two similar mini-super-dreadnought designs for Peru, Vickers 512 and Vickers 513 of February 1911.
Vickers 512
  • Dimensions: 128 x 21 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: -.- hp.
  • Speed: 21 kn.
  • Belt protection: 229 mm.
  • Main armament: 4 (2x2) 356/45 mm.
  • Secondary armament: 12 (12x1) 120/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 4 (4x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 4 (4x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 4 (4x1) 53 cm.
Vickers 513
  • Dimensions: 119 x 22 x 7.x m.
  • Displacement: 11,500 lt.
  • Power: 12.560 hp.
  • Speed: 19 kn.
  • Belt protection: 178 mm.
  • Main armament: 6 (2x3) 356/45 mm (maybe triple turrets).
  • Secondary armament: 14 (14x1) 102/50 mm.
  • Tertiary armament: 2 (2x1) 76 mm.
  • Machine-guns: 2 (2x1) 37 mm pom-pom.
  • Torpedo tubes: 2 (2x1) 53 cm.

Source: Revista de Marina, 1912.
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They are somewhat similar!
 

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