Douglas Designations

[Maveric]

Hi all,

I search for a list of Douglas designation! Can anybody help? PLEASE!!!!

Servus Maveric

 

[Antonio]

I know two people that would die for it ;D

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

Here that is at me:

D-1----D-108-----?
D-109------aka DC-1-109 (DC-1)
D-110------?
D-111------?
D-112------DC-2-112, C-32A
D-113------"Dolphin"
D-114------"Dolphin"
D-115------DC-2-115..., C-32
D-116------?
D-117------"Dolphin"
D-118------DC-2-118...,C-32A
D-119------"Dolphin"
D-120------DC-2-120, C-32A
D-121------?
D-122------?
D-123------DC-2-123
D-124------DC-2-124
D-125------DC-2-125, R2D-1
D-126------?
D-127------DC2-127
D-128------?
D-129------"Dolphin"
D-130------?

to be continued...

 

[Maveric]

yeahhhhhhh.....

Thanks nugo,but please more...!

 

[nugo]

Hi.

D-131-141---?
D-142------DC-2-142, R2D-1
D-143------?
D-144------DTS-144, C-49E(converted), DC-3A
D-145------DC-2-145, C-33, R2D-1
D-146-150---?
D-151------DF-151, flying-boat, 2xWright SGR-1820-G-2
D-152------DC-2-152
D-153------DC-2-153
D-154-170---?
D-171------DC-2-171
D-172------DC-2-172
D-173------DC-2-173, YC-34
D-174-177---?
D-178------DC-3-178

to be continued...

 

[lark]

Highly interesting Nugo...
Can you add any sources if possible ?

 

[Skybolt]

Douglas internal designation was on par with Lockheed as far as complexity: in 1950 they were already around 1200.. and using alphabetical suffixes too... I suspect that Provence-born man living in California has something up his sleeve... but who dares asking ? ;D

 

[nugo]

Hi.

D-179--184---?
D-185------DC-2-185
D-186--189---?
D-190------DC-2-190
D-191------DC-3A...,converted C-48C
D-192------DC-2-192
D-193------DC-2-193
D-194------DC-3-194,C-49H(DC-3-194B)
D-195------DF-195
D-196------DC-3-196,Soviet Li-2/PS-84
D-197------DC-3-197,DC-3A-197
D-198---?
D-199------DC-2-199
D-200------DC-2-200
D-201------DC-3-201
D-202------DC-3B-202
D-203------DT-203, 6 passenger, development of A-17A
D-204------DO-204...observer ?

to be continued...

 

[nugo]

Hi.

D-205--206---?
D-207------DTS-A-207A, converted C-48A,B
D-208------DC-3-208, converted DC-3A
D-209------DC-3-209, converted DC-3A
D-210------DT-210, DC-2-210
D-211------DC-2-211
D-212--213---?
D-214------DC-3, DC-3-214
D-215---?
D-216------DC-3-216
D-217------DTS-217..., converted C-49F, later converted DC-3A
D-218--219---?
D-220------DC-3-220
D-221------DC-2-221
D-222--226---?
D-227------DC-3, DC-3-227B, converted C-49H-DO
D-228------DC-3-228, DC-3A-228C
D-229------DC-3-229
D-230--231---?
D-232------DC-3-232
D-233--236---?
D-237------DC-3A-237
D-238--242---?
D-243------DC-2-243, C-39, C-41, converted C-42

to be continued...

 

[hesham]

Some explanations and additions,

D-153 C-32
D-243 C-39
D-253 C-41
D-267 C-42
D-360 C-47
D-456 C-47A
D-467 C-47B
D-237 DC-3 A & B (Japan built)
D-197D C-48
D-368 C-48A
D-171 C-32A
D-269C C-48C
D-363 C-48C and C-52F
D-414 C-48C
D-197 C-48C
D-367 C-48C
D-384 C-49
D-362 C-49
D-385 C-49A
D-201F C-49B & G
D-357A C-49C
D-202 C-49D
D-322B C-49D
D-270B C-49E & F
D-313A&D C-49E & H
D-217 C-49E (not C-49F)
D-318 C-49F
D-406 C-49F
D-277 C-49H
D-228 C-49H
D-314 C-49H
D-454 C-49J
D-455 C-49K
D-277D C-50
D-401 C-50A
D-270C C-51
D-197D C-52
D-394B C-52A
D-405 C-53
D-447 DC-3A for Pan American
D-408 for Douglas as a staff transport aircraft
D-453 C-53C
D-457 C-53D
D-414 C-68
D-415A C-74
D-511 C-110
D-125 R2D-1
D-388 R4D-2
DB-280 B-18A Digby I for RCAF
D-509 DC-4 for 86 passenger
D-537 DC-4 as civil freighter

 

[hesham]

Hi,

D-207D C-48C
D-197E C-48C
D-201G C-49D
D-217A&C C-49E
D-322A C-49F
D-201D C-49G
D-312 P-48
D-332F XB-31
D-413 bomber (no info)
D-423 XB-31
D-499 X-3
D-520 naval fighter
D-557 attack aircraft
D-558 I & II experimental aircraft
D-571 delta wing fighter
D-790 naval fighter
D-592 mixed powered fighter to compete Ryan FR-1
D-593 A3D

 

[Maveric]

Hi,

the D. 557 is the A2D-1 "Skyshark"
the D. 571 is the F4D-1 "Skyray"
the D. 671 is the D. 558-2 "Skyrocket"
don´t forget the Piaggio-Douglas P.D.808 "Vespa Jet"
D. 855 COIN-Project of 1964
D. 566 like the N.A. AJ

sorry I have the D.414 as C.74 ???

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the D-414 was C-68,before I continue,there is a subject will make
a big argument,the Douglas company in its model series had no sense,
and I think the company added 500 and 1000 to its designation system
to many not all of its aircraft and projects.
For examples,the C-132 was model 1814,the real design D-814,and the
C-133 model 1333,real design D-833,and douglas 1940 four engined
airliner project,real design D-940.
Of course I don't know the reasons that made the Douglas did this.

 

[Skybolt]

Which was the method in madness ? Who knows ? The turboprop bomber projects tendered in late '40s were D-122X.

 

[hesham]

My dear skybolt,

the Douglad D series for aircraft and projects were used for the
improved version also,for your example,the D-122 may be,was an
old turboprop bomber,and the D-122X was developed from it.

 

[r16]

this seems a good place to ask ; what are F1D and F2D now that the Skyknight was F3D ?

 

[Andreas Parsch]

this seems a good place to ask ; what are F1D and F2D now that the Skyknight was F3D ?

Easy question, complicated answer ...

There was a Douglas FD (not "F1D", because this "1" was always omitted in the Navy's designation system) in 1933 (only a single XFD-1). By 1943, when the Navy ordered jet figher prototypes from McDonnell, Douglas did not design fighters any more, and so the letter "D" was also assigned to McDonnell, and the "Phantom" jet became the FD (the duplication of the old, and obsolete, FD designation was standard procedure at that time). Next came the McDonnell "Banshee", designated F2D. But then Douglas re-entered the fighter business with the F3D design. Because it was obviously impractical to use the same letter for two companies designing aircraft in the same category ("F" in this case), McDonnell's letter was changed to "H". So FD/F2D became FH/F2H, and there was never any F2D from Douglas.

 

[r16]

thanks for the reply ; ı have searched for the early Douglas , but found nothing on it .Does anyone have more info ?

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

D-260------DC-3-260
D-268------DC-3,DC-3A
D-269------DC-3A, converted C-48C
D-276------DC-3-276 (Fokker)
D-279------DC-3-279
D-294------DC-3 (Fokker)
D-320------DB-320, B-23 Dragon
D-343------DC-3A-343
D-345------DC-3A-345
D-348------DC-3A-348, converted C-52D
D-375------DC-3A-375...
D-377------DC-3A-377, C-48
D-387------DC-3-387, C-49B
D-389------DC-3-389, C-49D
D-391------DC-3-391, C-50C
D-392------DC-3-392, C-50D
D-393------DC-3A-393
D-395------DC-3-395, C-52B
D-396------DC-3-396, C-50
D-397------DC-3-397
D-398------DC-3A-398
D-399------DC-3A-399

to be continued...

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

D-402------DC-3-402, C-52C
D-417------Feederliner, 2 piston engine, (proposal)
D-438------DC-3A-438
D-459------XA-42, XB-42 Mixmaster
D-466------XB-43
D-477------DC-6-477
D-496------DC-6-496
D-510------DC-5-510
D-561------F3D
D-565------USN Fighter (proposal)
D-581------Blimp, lighter than airship (proposal)
D-585------USN Fighter (proposal)

to be continued

 

[nugo]

Hi hesham!

hesham if it is possible tell and show pictures about Model D-520, D-566, D-590.

 

[hesham]

Hi ,

about D-520 and D-790 they are from a friend,but I have not
any more info about them,and a bout D-566,Maveric can tell
us about it.
I am sorry for D-590,I meant D-790,and I will correct it.

 

[nugo]

Hi Maveric!

Maveric if it is possible tell and show pictures about Model D-566.

Model D-566 competitor of NAA XAJ-1 ?

 

[Maveric]

Hi nugo,

give me a little bit time and I will post some infos...

 

[lark]

model 1129A----C-124A--original Globemaster II
model 1317 ----C-124C--with AN/APS-42 radome

Mc Donnell Douglas-A tale of two Giants:Bill Yenne-Bizon Books.London 1985

 

[Maveric]

Good morning,

this is all what I can give to you

 

[hesham]

Hi,

D-602 & D-603 ASW aircraft against Grumman S-2.
D-640 A4D
D-652 & D-653 naval fighter to compete Vought F8U
D-684 experimental aircraft (D-558 III) to compete NA X-15
D-856 six engined jet bomber
D-881 airliner
D-887 jet Trader
D-890 large airliner
D-895 large airliner
D-900 CXHLS
D-906 CX-4
D-910 airliner
D-916 big airliner
D-918 double deck large airliner
D-920 large transport aircraft
D-925 airliner
D-940 four turboprop engined airliner
D-950,D-952 & D-956 large transport aircraft
Model-1129 (I believed D-629) C-124A
Model-1182 (I believed D-682) YC-124B
Model-1317 (I believed D-817) C-124C
Model-1814 (I believed D-814) C-132
Model-1333 (I believed D-833) C-133A
Model-1430 (I believed D-930) C-133B
Model-1326 (I believed D-826) RB-66A
Model-1329 (I believed D-829) RB-66B
Model-1327 (I believed D-827) RB-66D
Model-1377 (I believed D-877) rocket bomber,no more info
Model-1211 (I believed D-711) jet bomber to compete Boeing B-52
Model-1064 flying wing strategic bomber (I believed D-564)
Model-1186A multi-stage aircraft as X-3 derived bomber (I believed D-686A)
Model-1355 fighter-bomber to replace F-105 (I believed D-855,as re-allocated)
Model-2086 DC-9 (I believed D-1086)
Model-2229 SST (I believed D-1229)

 

[nugo]

Hi All!
Many thanks Maveric.

ei hesham
D-602 & D-603 ASW aircraft against Grumman S-2--- should beat D-603 & D-604 ASW aircraft against Grumman S-2
D-900---CX-HLS ?
D-916---maybe CX-HLS

D-704------boddy-boddy underwing nose and drogue refueling pod system
D-766------XF6D-1 (proposal)
D-828------VTOL transport, 4 x GE T64 (proposal)
D-829------VTOL transport, 4 x GE T64 (proposal)
D-902------CX-4, (maybe)first proposal of CX-4, 6 jet transport (proposal)

Model-1129 (I believed D-629) C-124A---Incorrectly, Model 1129(true)---C-124A
and so on...

maybe Douglas Model 1000.....builds and proposals of USAAF/USAF and land builds and proposals (and no-Navy builds and proposals) 1944-1945---19?? years...

to be continued...

 

[lark]

A bit additional info about model 1211.

Douglas 1211-J :turboprop bomber project-Douglas contender in the B-52 competition.


Douglas 1211-R-45 : variant of 1211-J with six engines-four turboprop's and two pure jets.

later versions were to be powered by up to eight engines.Four each turboprop and pure jet.
Design studies reached the Model 1211-W.

Source : Air Pictorial February 1979.page 60-61.Article by Peter J.Marson of Air-Britain.
Avia & Cosmonautika - 1995

** Gentlemen please, give your sources so that we can make a reliable list with references...

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

D-966------familiarly know as the DC-10, 2 engine, 332 passenger (proposal)
D-967------familiarly know as the DC-10,---DC-10-3 (proposal)
D-968------familiarly know as the DC-10,---DC-10-4 (proposal)
D-969------DC-X-200, 2 or 3 engine (proposal)
D-974------big transport, lowplane, 6 engine (proposal)

to be continued...

 

[Andreas Parsch]

** Gentlemen please, give your sources so that we can make a reliable list with references...

Well said!!

So, if you contribute lists of numbers in this subforum, please provide your source! If you can't (because you didn't record the source, and now can't remember), you can still list your info but please say explicitly, that you don't know the source.

Thank you!

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Model-1015 was Cloudster II.

 

[lark]

Source please..?

 

[hesham]

My dear Lark,

the source;
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Coates/1720.htm

 

[lark]

Thanks!

 

[lark]

About the: Douglas B-66 Destroyer

model 1326 --- RB-66A
model 1327 --- B-66B and EB-66B
model 1329 --- RB-66B and EB-66E
model 1328 --- RB-66C and EB-66C
model 1365 --- WB-66D

Source:AeroFax Minigraph 19 : Douglas B-66 'Destroyer'
René Francillon and Mick Roth

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

Model 1004----DC-8-1004, 34-48 commercial Transport, development of the XB-42 (proposal)
Model 1009----DC-4-1009, DC-4, C-54E
Model 1037----DC-4-1037, DC-4

to be continued...

 

[lark]

These info should be of much greater value if you
could give us your sources Nugo...

 

[Antonio]

I agree with Lark

 

[nugo]

Hi All!

Source of the DC-4-1009 & DC-4-1037---Internet & Letectvi+Kosmonavtica ( Polish magazine)
Source of DC-8-1004---Flieger Revue (German Democratic Republic magazine)

Model 1068-------Trainer Series

Source: http://books.google.com/books?id=IfjBHAAACAAJ&dq=Douglas+Model++1068
Douglas Aircraft Company Model 1068 Series Trainers.
By Douglas Aircraft Company
Published by Douglas Aircraft Co, 1946

to be continued...