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Here are some drawings of the X-51 internals and 4 development craft in manufacturing - from a DARPA / Boeing Pdf.
airrocket said:WOW X-51 very detailed awesome! And seems the Aussie Queensland just keeps rolling out 3D inward inlet hyper concepts. Those Aussies ever get real hardware funding they will rule the hyper region as they are hyped on hyper. Ever fly subsonic to Australia makes one appreciate a future 2 hour hyper hop. Been following Queensland hyper stuff from way back in the eighties. They just keep at it slow but sure. I wonder if some that hyper enthusiasm is due to the somewhat out-of-the-way worldly location the Aussies inhabit. Anyway we still have leg up on them with the X-51 when comes to hardware. But the X-51 is sporting 80’s X-31 tech 2D inlet technology. From I have been told the 2D inlets are easier to analyses for early on development.
airrocket said:WOW X-51 very detailed awesome! And seems the Aussie Queensland just keeps rolling out 3D inward inlet hyper concepts. Those Aussies ever get real hardware funding they will rule the hyper region as they are hyped on hyper. Ever fly subsonic to Australia makes one appreciate a future 2 hour hyper hop. Been following Queensland hyper stuff from way back in the eighties. They just keep at it slow but sure. I wonder if some that hyper enthusiasm is due to the somewhat out-of-the-way worldly location the Aussies inhabit. Anyway we still have leg up on them with the X-51 when comes to hardware. But the X-51 is sporting 80’s X-31 tech 2D inlet technology. From I have been told the 2D inlets are easier to analyses for early on development.
DSE said:DSE said:Air & Space Mag put's it more pessimistically as not prior to the end of May. Can't seem to find the post now, but I know it's hanging outside my door at work.
Of course I find it after I posted this. http://blogs.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/2010/04/20/going-hypersonic/
Now reported as a go for the last week of May. Standing army would appear to be a real issue for the program at this point.
sferrin said:What stumps me is they keep putting it off due to "higher priority" tasking for the B-52 apparently. Anybody know what that might be? ???
DSE said:Well according to Craig Covault http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1005/16waverider/
"The tests getting underway this month were to have begun in February or March but were delayed when initial B-52 captive carry tests found the coordination of chase aircraft and telemetry acquisition required greater definition, project sources said."
Though given spurious incorrect or non-relevant portions of the article , a grain of salt might be needed.
bobbymike said:From the Air Force Association
Getting Ready to Scram: Air Force officials are preparing to conduct the maiden free flight of the first X-51A hypersonic air vehicle as early as May 25 from Edwards AFB, Calif. A B-52 will release the expendable X-51 over the Pacific Ocean. Spaceflight Now reported Monday that initial captive carry tests on the B-52 showed the need for greater coordination of chase aircraft and telemetry acquisition, thus pushing back the date of the historic first flight. The X-51 features a supersonic combustion ramjet engine designed to propel the vehicle to more than six times the speed of sound. These flights, if successful, would be the first practical demonstration of scramjet technology and could pave the way for new types of ultrafast-striking missiles, reusable aircraft, and even space-access vehicles. The Air Force plans four X-51 flights. (For X-51A background, see Game Changers from the archives of Air Force Magazine.)
Matej said:Probably the violator was on the Z axis
bobbymike said:sferrin - I'm guessing combustion problems as in the X-51 lost positive thrust of the SCRAMJET.
DSE said:The next try will be the last shot unless an lot more $$ are ponied up to make some more hardware. The ground test program was cut short as they salvaged some of that HW after some issues fabbing some of the flight bits.
sferrin said:Looks like somebody jumped the gun when they said it reached Mach 6. From Boeing's site:
"It was released while flying at approximately 50,000 feet over the Point Mugu Naval Air Warfare Center Sea Range. Four seconds later, a solid rocket booster from a U.S. Army tactical missile accelerated the X-51A to about Mach 4.5 before it and a connecting interstage were jettisoned. The X-51A's engine ignited on a mix of ethylene and JP-7 jet fuel. After a short period, the X-51A ran exclusively on JP-7 jet fuel. The flight reached an altitude of about 70,000 feet and an approximate speed of Mach 5."
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1227
I must say, I'm disappointed. An ASALM test vehicle reached a higher speed (Mach 5.4) 30 years ago and it didn't have the massive booster X-51 did. Ah well, better luck next time.
sferrin said:I must say, I'm disappointed. An ASALM test vehicle reached a higher speed (Mach 5.4) 30 years ago and it didn't have the massive booster X-51 did. Ah well, better luck next time.
Trident said:sferrin said:I must say, I'm disappointed. An ASALM test vehicle reached a higher speed (Mach 5.4) 30 years ago and it didn't have the massive booster X-51 did. Ah well, better luck next time.
How long did the ASALM PTV survive that experience though - 10 seconds? 200 seconds? If supersonic combustion and thermal equilibrium were achieved with the X-51 that would still be significant progress.
sferrin said:Video or it didn't happen.
sferrin said:Thing is though, the ATACMs booster burned out at Mach 4.5 (some reports say Mach 4.8) and after 200 seconds the missile only reached "approximately Mach 5" which means less-than in the media world (else they'd have said "over Mach 5"). So, in 200 seconds it accelerated between Mach 0.1 and Mach 0.5. Something tells me that even if they'd have gone the full 300 seconds they wouldn't have hit Mach 6. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.