That being said, look at the way Tartar and the front half of Terrier evolved into whatever version of Standard we're up to now, with associated changes on the launch platforms (Terrier started out beam riding; late versions and the evolution into Standard ER were SARH from the same ships). The missile itself isn't much different to look at; what's inside has changed immeasurably.
The USN got better value from their equivalent of the County class thanks to better designed weapons which evolved with the threat
Farragut-class destroyer (1958) - Wikipedia
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The US had significantly more money to throw at development and evolution.The USN got better value from their equivalent of the County class thanks to better designed weapons which evolved with the threat
Farragut-class destroyer (1958) - Wikipedia
Belknaps had a helo, Dash originally but later a Seasprite.The USN got better value from their equivalent of the County class thanks to better designed weapons which evolved with the threat
Farragut-class destroyer (1958) - Wikipedia
It's a pity the USN never managed to shoehorn a helicopter into its DLGs. That's the one place where the Counties had a distinct advantage.
Belknaps had a helo, Dash originally but later a Seasprite.The USN got better value from their equivalent of the County class thanks to better designed weapons which evolved with the threat
Farragut-class destroyer (1958) - Wikipedia
It's a pity the USN never managed to shoehorn a helicopter into its DLGs. That's the one place where the Counties had a distinct advantage.
I saw a YouTube video years ago about Seadart... long term storage was horizontal in a remote magazine, they were transferred in the video horizontally in their storage box via a just slightly bigger than the box tunnel to the upper part of the launcher/missile room. They were taken out of the box and fueled, then loaded into the vertical magazine. From what I have gathered over the years the seals on them weren't good for long term horizontal fuel storage, perfectly fine vertically but you couldn't have them lay flat for really long amounts of time before they started to leak which makes a really flammable mess.
I am familiar...those are the ready launch magazines for the fueled birds. However they were transported horizontally when dry. The video showed the loading procedure wherein the dry bird was brought into the missile room, fueled and then loaded into the launch magazine. Now that could have been done at dock and this is how the missiles were brought on board and not dead storage somewhere in the ship I grant you, but that doesn't change that the missile was transported horizontally, and therefore could take some stress on that axis which is the question I was trying to answer.
I am looking for video.. been at least four years since I saw it, and the information about the seals I did get from another forum (hence why I said "from that I have gathered" in the original post), so it could be faulty though it was from a trusted/knowlegable source. But the vide clearly showed them filling the missile with fuel... trust me I was as horrified as you but I figured if they can gas up a helicopter at sea *shrugs*.. will note that I saw the video after hearing the seal info on the forum, probably warship1 so it gave credence to it. I will also note that the container in the video was MUCH smaller, like it would fit inside of that one, it was basically a black box just a little bigger then the span of the fins.
That’s a real “WTF” moment, which brings up two possibilities:
excellent information. I know what I saw in that video, and have zero reason to lie about it, so maybe I just misinterpreted what I was seeing... would they unload the fuel if they were doing maintenance aboard ship and what I was seeing was the missile being brought back from a maintaining room in another compartment?
that may be, as I recall the video did not have audio so it was take your best guess and it was oddly named.. and mine was lacking.
A former Australian Chief of Navy did his Phd Thesis on the acquisition of the Adams / Perth Class destroyers by the RAN and the effect it had on RAN engineering. Prior to the lessons learnt on the Perths the RAN had been totally reliant on the RN for ship design, and even the formulation of sensible requirements, the RAN had been purely operations and to a much lesser degree maintainers.
That already had 2 directors, not many more Sea Slugs, no helicopters with guns and a crew demand far bigger than we needed plus a maintenance heavy 984 when we needed to develop a DLG sized 3D set.
