Convair F-106 Projects

[BlackBat242]

My numbers came from the engine sections of Jane's Aircraft (many years of volumes) and other such sources, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are a little off.

The airflow and thrust numbers you have are for the earlier F100-P-100 & -200 originally put in the F-15 & F-16 in the 1970s - the numbers I gave are for the improved higher-thrust F100-P-220 & -229 introduced in the late 1980s in those aircraft as I noted.

 

[Trident]

Everything I´ve seen on the former is in between about 250 and 260 lb/s (e.g., Tommy Thomasons excellent book on the F8-U3 gives 261 lb/s @ 26.000 lbf of thrust) and around 230 lb/s for the latter, with a thrust of about 23,800 lbf.
Upwards of 120 lbf per lb/s of airflow is something you wouldn´t get till about 1990.

Yep, turbine inlet temperatures would've been too low.

 

[FrankM]

My numbers came from the engine sections of Jane's Aircraft (many years of volumes) and other such sources, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are a little off.

The airflow and thrust numbers you have are for the earlier F100-P-100 & -200 originally put in the F-15 & F-16 in the 1970s - the numbers I gave are for the improved higher-thrust F100-P-220 & -229 introduced in the late 1980s in those aircraft as I noted.

Well, again, all references i´ve seen (but that list might obviously not be all-encompassing) credit the basic -220 engine with the same thrust (about 106 kN / 24 klbf) as the earlier versions (some sources only give 22 klbf for the -100 / -200).
Thrust levels you provided would only be possible with the later -220P, introducing significantly higher PR by adopting more advanced fan technology.

(ETA: I should have said, I´m not talking about the -229, where you are obviously quoting "canonical" values. Regards!)

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

蛇乃目伍長の「エアフォースの英国面に来い！」 Mk.2 : 3発型F-106

blog.livedoor.jp

Around 1975, a rectangular cross-sectional intake was prototyped, but it was never installed on the actual F-106.
It seems that wind tunnel test data was taken using the 1/20 model of this intake.
N616NA (later N816NA) was used for this research until about 1976 and is now on display at the Virginia Air & Space Center.

 

[blackkite]

They are Boeing STOL F-106 projects;


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19800075253_1980075253.pdf

Excellent find!
I add larger images.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800075253/downloads/19800075253.pdf

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Front view. Almost same scale.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Plan view. Almost same scale.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Side view.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

https://www.quora.com/If-all-the-Century-Series-jets-fought-against-each-other-which-one-would-be-the-last-one-flying

 

[BlackBat242]

That all depends on the scenario, the allowed weapons, and so on.

Let the F-101 have a pair of Genie AAMs and the freedom to use them, nothing gets close enough to even shoot a missile at it.

 

[Scott Kenny]

That all depends on the scenario, the allowed weapons, and so on.

Let the F-101 have a pair of Genie AAMs and the freedom to use them, nothing gets close enough to even shoot a missile at it.

Genies only have a 6mi range...

If the F-111B gets to play, it splashes 6 birds from about 100nmi out with Phoenixes. It may struggle against the last 2 planes, using Sidewinders. F-111s do NOT like dogfighting.

Otherwise, the F-110 is the likely winner, even if it is stuck using IR Falcons.

 

[BlackBat242]

I thought they had a longer range.

OK - the "F-110A" (F-4C) had Sidewinders - it was the F-4D ("F-110B") that switched to Falcon missiles.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Spike project.

F-106 Delta Dart Project Spike

Learn about Project Spike the antisatellite weapons program supported by the F-106 Delta Dart Ultimate Interceptor the last of the Century Series Fighters

www.f-106deltadart.com

 

[blackkite]

Photo Galleries | F-106 Delta Dart

Photos of the F-106 Delta Dart the Ultimate USAF Interceptor

www.f-106deltadart.com

 

[blackkite]

Convair F-106-Aircraft of the Month-October 2000

 

[Basil]

Hi!

https://www.quora.com/If-all-the-Century-Series-jets-fought-against-each-other-which-one-would-be-the-last-one-flying

Regarding the photo of F-102/106 and the 104 - interesting to see how large they are compared to the Starfighter ...

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
Case 29(ⅩⅩⅨ) wing and case14(ⅩⅣ) wing station diagram. (upper surface)
Source : FAMOUS AIRPLANES OF THE WORLD CONVAIR F-106 DELTA DART. ISBN978-4-89319-327-8, etc

 

[Christopher Wang]

Hi!

https://www.quora.com/If-all-the-Century-Series-jets-fought-against-each-other-which-one-would-be-the-last-one-flying

Are all the Century Fighters as drawn by Steve Freeman on the same scale?

 

[blackkite]

Comparing the length of F-100, F-102 and F-106 in the drawing by Mr. Steve Freeman, I feel on the same scale.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Vortex flap.

F-106 Delta Dart NASA Vortex Flaps

Read the history of NASA Vortex Flap research using the F-106 Delta Dart Ultimate Interceptor as it serverd for 30 years supporting NASA projects.

www.f-106deltadart.com

Photo Galleries | F-106 Delta Dart

Photos of the F-106 Delta Dart the Ultimate USAF Interceptor

www.f-106deltadart.com

 

[Foo Fighter]

Genies only have a 6mi range...

If the F-111B gets to play, it splashes 6 birds from about 100nmi out with Phoenixes. It may struggle against the last 2 planes, using Sidewinders. F-111s do NOT like dogfighting.

Otherwise, the F-110 is the likely winner, even if it is stuck using IR Falcons.

That makes it appear that the Genie carrier is on a one way trip. I thought that sort of thing was for 'other folk'.

 

[Scott Kenny]

That makes it appear that the Genie carrier is on a one way trip. I thought that sort of thing was for 'other folk'.

Genie is a rocket, you let fly and do a 180.

And it's a small boom, the Genie was tested with USAF officers standing unprotected under the detonation point of the live warhead about 18,000ft above them.

 

[yasotay]

I imagine the Phoenix missile was far to big to have fit into the Dart's weapon bay.

 

[Foo Fighter]

Genie is a rocket, you let fly and do a 180.

And it's a small boom, the Genie was tested with USAF officers standing unprotected under the detonation point of the live warhead about 18,000ft above them.

Thanks mate.

 

[TomcatViP]

I imagine the Phoenix missile was far to big to have fit into the Dart's weapon bay.

Probably not. Both missiles have the same wingspan and sensibly the same length. The major factor at play is the effectiveness of the warhead...

 

[MadRat]

Genie was to turn nukes on the bombers into duds, not to kill so much.

 

[Scott Kenny]

Genie was to turn nukes on the bombers into duds, not to kill so much.

It's still 1.5kt, it'd wreck a whole formation of bombers.

 

[MadRat]

There is a whole lot of volume to fill, so not as likely to kill dispersed groups in practice. Soviet bombers flew during peace-time within visual range of others but in a hot war this was not expected to happen. The lack of effectiveness to dispersed targets made this a goldplated solution.

 

[Jonathan338]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P5_12iBBNM



F-106 with Helmet que'd sight

 

[R_K_M]

Do we happen to have E-M diagrams (doghouse plots) for the F-106?

 

[whatismoo]

Do we happen to have E-M diagrams (doghouse plots) for the F-106?

They're referenced in a few papers by Boyd but he never shows them directly in any I've found

 

[Jason Dykstra (Wyvern)]

There is a whole lot of volume to fill, so not as likely to kill dispersed groups in practice. Soviet bombers flew during peace-time within visual range of others but in a hot war this was not expected to happen. The lack of effectiveness to dispersed targets made this a goldplated solution.

It may have been considered good enough against single bombers as well; the RAF considered chucking tactical nuclear bombs at individual aircraft.