Comic artist versus Real Aircraft

[Justo Miranda]

From http://renax.club.fr/sharkit/espadon/espadon.htm

 

[Michel Van]

cool there is a Model of L'Espadon

i hope is cheaper that the models
to find in Belgium comics book shop
you have to pay 350€ $450 for that.

 

[BAROBA]

From http://renax.club.fr/sharkit/espadon/espadon.htm

Looks alot like a XF-103.. But wouldn't the design of the Xf-103 would be a secret at the time?

 

[Pepe Rezende]

i beginn with something new

Comic Art vrs Real Thing

so post here your favorite comic aircraft

Belgian artist Roger Leloup
Roger Leloup, born in Verviers, stands out for the highly detailed and technical drawings in his trademark series 'Yoko Tsuno'. In the early stages of his career, he was mainly doing background art assistance for Herge, Jacques Martin

The Adventures of Tintin - Flight 714 ( Vol 714 pour Sydney )
feature the "Carreidas 160" was design and draw by Leloup
a swing-wing private jet !

by the way:
the "Carreidas 160" and "The Adventures of Tintin" are Rights of the Hergé Foundation
and they have nasty Lawyer

Friends at Dassault tell me the Carreidas 160 have some Marcel Dassault inputs. friend of Herge, he mounted a small work group to design a viable plane that was enhanced by Leloup in its final form. Carreida character was molded over Dassault.

Pepe

 

[Justo Miranda]

Looks alot like a XF-103.. But wouldn't the design of the Xf-103 would be a secret at the time?

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In my opinion Regulus II

 

[Justo Miranda]

Please see http://www.xplanefreeware.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1752

 

[Merv_P]

Please see http://www.xplanefreeware.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1752

Good to see this; unfortunately the download link for the XPlane mesh is broken, otherwise we could get some renders out of it.

 

[Tophe]

In the "Chevaliers du ciel"/"Tanguy & Laverdure" adventures was featured a Mirage tailsitter if I remember well. I have it somewhere but my scanner is in a jam. Maybe JCC has already included it in his Modelstories pages about comics' aircraft, I could check that too.
But... my main question was about Ted Nomura's cartoons (Luftwaffe 1946, WW2-1946, etc.) Do you count them as comics, that's a goldmine of creations (circular-wing Me262 & 163, zwilling of P-40 & B-29, sci-fi jets, etc.)...

 

[Tophe]

In the "Chevaliers du ciel"/"Tanguy & Laverdure" adventures was featured a Mirage tailsitter if I remember well. Maybe JCC has already included it in his Modelstories pages about comics' aircraft, I could check that too.

see http://modelstories.free.fr/
in the paragraph Nos dossiers BD (BD for "Bandes Dessinées" mean Comic paper cartoons)
Our dear JCC included many pearls there, as links.

 

[Antonio]

But... my main question was about Ted Nomura's cartoons (Luftwaffe 1946, WW2-1946, etc.) Do you count them as comics, that's a goldmine of creations (circular-wing Me262 & 163, zwilling of P-40 & B-29, sci-fi jets, etc.)...

In my opinion, Nomura's creations can be included here. I love his art.

 

[Tophe]

Have you checked the Modelstories collection? with pearls like this:

 

[Justo Miranda]

By popular demand ...
Ted Nomura art samples
From Antarctic Press Publications (Series Tigers of Terra, Luftsturm and Project Saucer)
Via Ted Nomura
Post 1

 

[Justo Miranda]

Ted Nomura art samples
From Antarctic Press Publications (Series Tigers of Terra, Luftsturm and Project Saucer)
Via Ted Nomura
Post 2

 

[Antonio]

Breathtaking!

Thanks a lot Justo and Mr Nomura

 

[Klaatu]

This is a great thread...I must try and dig out something. ;D

 

[Reine_xxx]

Rafa,

Tonight I'll post several conceptual aircraft from Gunston's books

Please! post them to me as well, dear Sire! I would be very grateful! ;D
Thanks in advance

 

[joncarrfarrelly]

Insectiform nazi bomber from an unknown Rocketeer comic

Not "Nazi", its the Douglas Locust, a prototype that the Nazis attempt to steal in Dave Steven's original "The Rocketeer" comic.
The aircraft first appears at the end of Chapter 4 and Cliff Secord's attempt to get it back from the Nazis forms the bulk of Chapter 5
and the action-packed climax. This is when Secord meets the designer of the rocket-pack, and he wasn't Howard Hughes. While
Steven's never states the name of the designer it is clear from story context and a number of clues that he is none other than
Doc Savage.

Jon

 

[Stargazer]

Insectiform nazi bomber from an unknown Rocketeer comic

Not "Nazi", its the Douglas Locust, a prototype that the Nazis attempt to steal in Dave Steven's original "The Rocketeer" comic.
The aircraft first appears at the end of Chapter 4 and Cliff Secord's attempt to get it back from the Nazis forms the bulk of Chapter 5
and the action-packed climax. This is when Secord meets the designer of the rocket-pack, and he wasn't Howard Hughes. While
Steven's never states the name of the designer it is clear from story context and a number of clues that he is none other than
Doc Savage.

Jon

Such great memories, this! I was a fan of Rocketeer when it came out, and actually got my graphic novel signed by Stevens himself, a nice guy who used his own appearance for the main character! How sad he passed away. I must say I'd never realized about the Doc Savage connection... Wow.

The movie Rocketeer is also GREAT FUN, not just because of the character himself, but the rebuilt Gee Bee and Hughes racers...

 

[Klaatu]

The Rocketeer IS great fun...for all the reasons you said. It also reminds me of the great Saturday afternoon movies I went to see as a kid. ;D

 

[archipeppe]

The movie Rocketeer is also GREAT FUN, not just because of the character himself, but the rebuilt Gee Bee and Hughes racers...

I loved the whole movie....

 

[Justo Miranda]

Insectiform nazi bomber from an unknown Rocketeer comic

Not "Nazi", its the Douglas Locust, a prototype that the Nazis attempt to steal in Dave Steven's original "The Rocketeer" comic.
The aircraft first appears at the end of Chapter 4 and Cliff Secord's attempt to get it back from the Nazis forms the bulk of Chapter 5
and the action-packed climax. This is when Secord meets the designer of the rocket-pack, and he wasn't Howard Hughes. While
Steven's never states the name of the designer it is clear from story context and a number of clues that he is none other than
Doc Savage.

Jon

Such great memories, this! I was a fan of Rocketeer when it came out, and actually got my graphic novel signed by Stevens himself, a nice guy who used his own appearance for the main character! How sad he passed away. I must say I'd never realized about the Doc Savage connection... Wow.

The movie Rocketeer is also GREAT FUN, not just because of the character himself, but the rebuilt Gee Bee and Hughes racers...

Gee Bee?

 

[Stargazer]

Yep. There is one flying example in the movie.

 

[Michel Van]

Rocketeer is fun fun fun

from Gee Bee over those "German" propaganda movies.
Howard Hughes remark over his "Spruce Goose" model flight,
the patriotic mobster and pyrotech redesign of Hollywoodland sign ;D

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Dave Stevens passed away? That sucks. He made a real cool comic.

 

[Stargazer]

Sucks indeed. From Wikipedia: "Following several years of struggles with leukemia, which caused a gradual reduction in his artistic output, Stevens died on March 11, 2008 in Turlock, California."

 

[Michel Van]

and now to some thing different

Stan Mott fantastic work

insane Aircraft tanks Ships like

Supertanker as "Chopper" with Cadillacs as Lifeboats ;D
COPYRIGHT Stan Mott©

All images and artwork are copyright Stan Mott,
used by permission.
You can see more at S. Berliner's wonderful archive site of Stan's artwork.

http://sbiii.com/cyclops/stmott-1.html

http://sbiii.com/cyclops/stmott-2.html

http://sbiii.com/cyclops/stmott-3.html

 

[Tophe]

You can see more at S. Berliner's wonderful archive site of Stan's artwork.
http://sbiii.com/cyclops/stmott-1.html

Thanks, I love the triplex fuselage multiplane there...

 

[Michel Van]

Thanks, I love the triplex fuselage multiplane there...

http://sbiii.com/smottpix/sokerov1.jpg
oh yes thats wounderfull

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

Ted Nomura art. Enjoy !
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/1062835.html
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/tag/creator:+ted+nomura
http://www.deradlertag.info/search/label/Comic

Maybe someone knows the Luftwaffe:1946 series better and could help me ?
I am searching details on a big flying saucer battleship. Called Warfortress ? Sounds crazy.
Maybe someone can help with a little picture or a description ?
Here is a picture from a battleship saucer with ?Yamato silhouette? from Kamikaze:1946.
http://www.ufopop.org/fullimage.php?cid=2000/Kamikaze1946_06.jpg
Many greetings and Thanks a lot for every help

 

[The Artist]

Okay Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for the years 1908 and 1909...

You can view these full strips at http://www.barnaclepress.com/ a site I recommend for any fan of obscure old comics. Be warned, though, that some of the material on this site may not be 'work safe.' Not for sexual content but for language and drawn representations which are reflective of the attitudes of the time when these works were created.

The Flying Fish is from Bill And Budd, The Bird Boys by an unknown artist. http://www.barnaclepress.com/list.php?directory=BirdBoys This strip ran from 1909 and into 1910.

The Explorigator was by Harry Grant Dart and it ran in 1908. http://www.barnaclepress.com/list.php?directory=Explorigator

Harry Grant Dart's body of work contained many wonderful airships and many of those designs are finding popularity again with the Steampunk movement. A good (though brief) introduction to Dart can be read here http://www.linesandcolors.com/2008/09/17/harry-grant-dart/ a blog that I trust and check daily.

 

[skyrocket01]

For those whom are interested, Dave Stevens had nearly completed a book of his work titled, "A Brush with Passion", when he died. Highly recommended.

 

[Michel Van]

here interresting Ringwing Coléoptére VTOL in Comic
the cockpit goes horziotal in hovermode
if the date is right then its years bevor Convair model 49

R. Bonnet: Fripounet, "Silence à Éclaire Blanc" from 1957

Source:
http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/volltexte/2003/geist-soz/1/html-1/26-flugzeug/fr-f-06.html

 

[Hammer Birchgrove]

May I add some cartoons too?

Swat Kats:

Season 1 intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AdxJWFUh4

Season 2 intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsOrCq811r8

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT_Kats:_The_Radical_Squadron

The heroes' strike fighter is probably Mach 3 or more, very manoeuvrable, VTOL, and since it's a kids' show, loaded (mostly) with "non-lethal" weapons. Direct energy/laser weapons are of course commonplace, the police is paramilitary and has both helicopters and fighter jets, and villains are usually mad scientists, high tech terrorists, mutants and what not.

X-men:

Intro #1 (no sound):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-50D_1fVDI

Intro #2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YD4Zy_J8f0

Intro # 3, with more Blackbird:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRnrywAX3Vc

Info about the comics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-men

Info about the 1990's cartoons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_%28TV_series%29

Not just the cartoons, but the original comics also had a vastly improved variant of the Lookheed SR-71 Blackbird since 1975 (here with VTOL and transport capabilities, and no need to refuel after start).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbird_%28comics%29

TailSpin:

Intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsQTzxzDYjw

Info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TaleSpin

Machines generally not as outrageous as in Swat Kats, but I doubt you can manoeuvre that well with a twin-engined, twin-boomer transport. The giant helo carrier used by the air pirates was like something from a Jules Verne-inspired pulp novel. Baloo's sea cargo plane is a "Conwing L-16", according to Wikipedia a "fictitious combination of a Fairchild C-119 transport and a Grumman HU-16 amphibian".

It might have been a comic book as well, since Duck Tales, Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers and Darkwing Duck have been turned into comic books (those had several aircrafts as well).

 

[Stargazer]

Not only the original X-Men ship was called the Blackbird ans was a (lame) copy of it, but at some point the character called Sprite (who became Shadowcat) had her own pet dragon from space whom she called Lockheed... ;D

 

[Hammer Birchgrove]

Not only the original X-Men ship was called the Blackbird ans was a (lame) copy of it, but at some point the character called Sprite (who became Shadowcat) had her own pet dragon from space whom she called Lockheed... ;D

Indeed. I think I saw him mostly in the Excalibur comics, though he was created earlier than that title.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_%28comics%29

 

[Hammer Birchgrove]

I obviously should not forget Porco Rosso:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RjgQMO4kM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porco_Rosso

 

[mz]

An absolutely fabulous movie with perhaps the best protagonist of all time.
Old Studio Ghibli movies have been making the rounds in theaters here for a few years. I love them.

 

[Stargazer]

A fantastic movie indeed, like all Ghibli creations, agreed!

 

[fightingirish]

http://xplanes.tumblr.com/tagged/comics

 

[Grey Havoc]

Reaching new heights


2:29 am, September 23, 2014


The Yomiuri Shimbun


A small aircraft that looks exactly like the jet-powered glider used by the heroine of Hayao Miyazaki’s animated film “Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind” flies at Takikawa Skypark in Takikawa, Hokkaido. Created by Tokyo-based media artist Kazuhiko Hachiya, 48, the 9.6-meter-wide plane reached an altitude of 20 meters for the first time Sunday. It can take off, glide and land under its own power. The pilot lies in a prone position and controls the airplane by shifting his or her body weight.