Bazinga said:This reminds me of the C-15 and C-17 powering. Looks to me this thing is underpowered. Unless the chinese have a very high T/W ratio or a very long runway.
Bazinga said:This reminds me of the C-15 and C-17 powering. Looks to me this thing is underpowered. Unless the chinese have a very high T/W ratio or a very long runway.
flateric said:taking Antonov guys help into account...sferrin said:Looks like an AN-70 with jets.
chuck4 said:flateric said:taking Antonov guys help into account...sferrin said:Looks like an AN-70 with jets.
Having help doesn't mean the products end up visually resembling the work of the helpers. Lately Chinese products that owe something to Russian design input, like JF-17 or type 053C DDG, ended up looking nothing like Russian products. The chinese seem now interested more in specific Russian solutions to detailed engineering problems than the overall Russian designs. They either copy outright, or try to go indigenous as much as possible and only adopt specific Russian solutions to specific problems they can't overcome. They copy to learn, and are not constitutional copycats.
The Chinese had no choice.chuck4 said:The small intake means low massflow. More likely they are using an engine of adequate power but low bypass ratio. So the plane would be similar to 1960s era transports in having adequate flight performance but high fuel consumption and low range.
This jet doesn't appear to have STOL, so it will operate mostly within China.Dragon029 said:It might not need too long a runway;
SlowMan said:This jet doesn't appear to have STOL, so it will operate mostly within China.
SlowMan said:The Chinese had no choice.chuck4 said:The small intake means low massflow. More likely they are using an engine of adequate power but low bypass ratio. So the plane would be similar to 1960s era transports in having adequate flight performance but high fuel consumption and low range.
Westerm civilian jet engines are not available for the jet as it is a military aircraft, and China is unable to produce large and powerful engines yet. Must do with what they could get from Russia. The Japanese faced a similar problem as the Chinese but the Japanese had the US(GE) engines available to them.
This jet doesn't appear to have STOL, so it will operate mostly within China.Dragon029 said:It might not need too long a runway;
By looking at the size of leading edge slats and flaps. C-17's are huge. Y-20's look small by comparison, similar to civilian jets.GTX said:How do you figure that?
GTX said:Whether it is STOL capable or not does not determine whether it will operate mostly within China... :
That is what I was asking you about.
GTX said:And how often do you suppose the C-17 really makes use of the STOL capability?
lancer21 said:Chinese TV video:
PS: Seems i can't post videos or links to . Anyway , just go on youtube and search Y20 clips from today.
PPS: Oh , and congratulations to Xian and the Chinese aerospace industry, it's a remarkable achievements. I guess now the yanks have a good reason to be afraid of the hordes of evil Chinese paratroopers descending over them. Soon, very soon. ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G-PXJ1lu24
SlowMan said:By looking at the size of leading edge slats and flaps. C-17's are huge. Y-20's look small by comparison, similar to civilian jets.GTX said:How do you figure that?
chuck4 said:SlowMan said:By looking at the size of leading edge slats and flaps. C-17's are huge. Y-20's look small by comparison, similar to civilian jets.GTX said:How do you figure that?
You tell this the same way you divine f-35 and f-15SE's frontal aspect RCS?