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VH said:You really do seem to enjoy antagonising people, don't you?
That would be China wouldn't it?
Can't Chine be antagonised in your world view?
VH said:You really do seem to enjoy antagonising people, don't you?
That would be China wouldn't it?
Orionblamblam said:"Possession" is defined by what you can, and choose to, keep.
On the one hand, this might be seen as bad. On the other hand, China would have no cause for complaint if the USAF landed on the moon and planted defensive batteries.
Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I say again - look out! Do not underestimate the country that "wants to rise again." (I, personally, am more afraid of China than any other country on this planet) Putin sucks. -SPsferrin said:Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I guess this is what a "Peaceful Rise" looks like - surrounding everybody with weapons and then telling them their land is yours now.
Steve Pace said:I say again - look out! Do not underestimate the country that "wants to rise again." (I, personally, am more afraid of China than any other country on this planet) Putin sucks. -SPsferrin said:Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I guess this is what a "Peaceful Rise" looks like - surrounding everybody with weapons and then telling them their land is yours now.
sferrin said:Oh, I'm ANYTHING but underestimating them. From the time they bought their "casino" I knew we'd eventually end up here (and it's far from over).
sferrin said:Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I guess this is what a "Peaceful Rise" looks like - surrounding everybody with weapons and then telling them their land is yours now.
Gridlock said:sferrin said:Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I guess this is what a "Peaceful Rise" looks like - surrounding everybody with weapons and then telling them their land is yours now.
It always surprises me when Americans take the moral high ground on this sort of thing.....
(Assuming you're American)
Gridlock said:sferrin said:Steve Pace said:china is more than pricey dishes - look out. BTW: doesn't the U.S. owe boo-coo-bucks to China? -SP
I guess this is what a "Peaceful Rise" looks like - surrounding everybody with weapons and then telling them their land is yours now.
It always surprises me when Americans take the moral high ground on this sort of thing.....
(Assuming you're American)
kaiserbill said:Diego Garcia seems to have been a prototype of sorts.
kaiserbill said:Is this the latest reincarnation of "The usual suspects bash China" thread that Paul has to keep locking?
He must find it very tedious.
Diego Garcia was bought by the UK from Mauritius, then handed over to the USA which constructed its airbase there. After the UK depopulating Diego Garcia, that is, with the UK paying compensation to some of the deported. Few of the 1000-2000 inhabitants left willingly. It's a grubby part of history.sferrin said:Diego Garcia was taken from other claimants?
Arjen said:Diego Garcia was bought by the UK from Mauritius, then handed over to the USA which constructed its airbase there. After the UK depopulating Diego Garcia, that is, with the UK paying compensation to some of the deported. Few of the 1000-2000 inhabitants left willingly. It's a grubby part of history.sferrin said:Diego Garcia was taken from other claimants?
TomS said:Oh, it was anything but "aboveboard" The British government deliberately understated the number of permanent residents on the Chagoss Islands, systematically destroyed the economy of the islands to encourage people to leave, then lied to residents and their families about why people who left the island were unable to return. In the end, they deported people who had lived on the islands for their whole lives to places they didn't know and where they faced severe discrimination. They eventually paid some compensation, but it wasn't much in the end and it was years late. The whole affair was pretty ugly, and continues to be so.
The wiki page makes for some interesting (depressing) reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Chagossians_from_the_Chagos_Archipelago
sferrin said:You mean because of all the islands the US has built and the armed up, [size=12pt]or[/size] all the territory it's been taking the last couple years? Do tell.
Diego Garcia seems to have been a prototype of sorts.
TomS said:Oh, it was anything but "aboveboard" The British government deliberately understated the number of permanent residents on the Chagoss Islands, systematically destroyed the economy of the islands to encourage people to leave, then lied to residents and their families about why people who left the island were unable to return. In the end, they deported people who had lived on the islands for their whole lives to places they didn't know and where they faced severe discrimination. They eventually paid some compensation, but it wasn't much in the end and it was years late. The whole affair was pretty ugly, and continues to be so.
The wiki page makes for some interesting (depressing) reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Chagossians_from_the_Chagos_Archipelago
sferrin said:As harsh as it is though Diego Garcia was land recognized as belonging to the UK no?
According to Article 7(d) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court which established the International Criminal Court (ICC), "deportation or forcible transfer of population" constitutes a crime against humanity if it is "committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack". The ICC is not retroactive: alleged crimes committed before 1 July 2002 cannot be judged by the ICC.
Arjen said:As often, not technically breaking the law of the time didn't mean justice was served. International law has changed since then. From the link provided by TomS in reply #18:
According to Article 7(d) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court which established the International Criminal Court (ICC), "deportation or forcible transfer of population" constitutes a crime against humanity if it is "committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack". The ICC is not retroactive: alleged crimes committed before 1 July 2002 cannot be judged by the ICC.
Arian said:Sorry to intrude on this conversation, but did any of you look at a map of where the island in question is? This is on an island China occupied since 1974, and within China's internationally recognized economic maritime zone. Not as is being portrayed here.