China Projecting Power in South and East China Seas

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Yet when another country decides to defend its actual, undisputed territory witness the panty-wringing:

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/181821/china-promises-retaliation-for-thaad-deployment-to-korea.html

"The deployment of THAAD provides China with the reason to increase the number and quality of strategic nuclear weapons.

Now, if China launches missile tests in the Pacific, or even re-starts nuclear tests, the outside world will be more understanding. China must seize this opportunity brought by the deployment of THAAD to improve its overall strategic nuclear power so as to turn bad things into good. "

I only wish China would be so stupid. Perfect excuse for the US to restart its own nuclear testing.
 
sferrin said:
... Perfect excuse for the US to restart its own nuclear testing.
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That may be more difficult than one might expect.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,25404.msg300210.html#msg300210
 
NeilChapman said:
sferrin said:
... Perfect excuse for the US to restart its own nuclear testing.
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That may be more difficult than one might expect.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,25404.msg300210.html#msg300210
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All the more reason to start ASAP.
 
http://www.atimes.com/article/light-war-space-based-lasers-among-beijings-high-tech-arms/
 
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/china-plans-1st-structure-in-disputed-south-china-sea
 
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017/02/beijing-wants-limit-foreign-submarine-operations-near-its-south-china-sea-islands/135582/
 
Grey Havoc said:
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017/02/beijing-wants-limit-foreign-submarine-operations-near-its-south-china-sea-islands/135582/
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Good luck with that.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/philippines-duterte-orders-troops-to-disputed-south-china-sea-in-possible-new-rift-with-beijing/2017/04/06/8eb50e1a-1aa9-11e7-8003-f55b4c1cfae2_story.html
 
Grey Havoc said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/philippines-duterte-orders-troops-to-disputed-south-china-sea-in-possible-new-rift-with-beijing/2017/04/06/8eb50e1a-1aa9-11e7-8003-f55b4c1cfae2_story.html
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This guy can't seem to make up his mind what he wants to do.
 
https://amti.csis.org/tracking-chinas-coast-guard-off-borneo/?utm_content=buffer2ee38&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
sferrin said:
This guy can't seem to make up his mind what he wants to do.
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You're really surprised by this, given the fact that the guy has been repeatedly literally called a brawler?
 
martinbayer said:
sferrin said:
This guy can't seem to make up his mind what he wants to do.
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You're really surprised by this, given the fact that the guy has been repeatedly literally called a brawler?
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Well all he's really managed to do is piss everybody off.
 
https://amti.csis.org/chinas-big-three-near-completion/
 
http://www.scout.com/military/warrior/story/1668461-congress-seeks-new-detail-on-chinese-weapons

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1043653.shtml
 
http://www.westernjournalism.com/john-mccain-calls-increase-u-s-military-presence-asia-pacific-region/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_campaign=WJDailyEmail&utm_content=2017-04-25
 
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/satellite-images-suggest-china-arming-strategic-south-china-20583
 
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/china-says-it-successfully-tests-new-type-of-missile

Why we continue to be a party to a treaty, INF, that the counter party is in violation of and our major strategic competitor is not even a part of and in fact has a multi-hundred arsenal in, is mind boggling to me.
 
bobbymike said:
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/china-says-it-successfully-tests-new-type-of-missile

Why we continue to be a party to a treaty, INF, that the counter party is in violation of and our major strategic competitor is not even a part of and in fact has a multi-hundred arsenal in, is mind boggling to me.
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Of course, the fact it secured the peace in Europe and helped end the Cold War is forgotten, isn't it? ::)
 
Not to mention that even back in the day, the Soviets were doing end runs around it. Such as when they transferred SS-23 Spider systems to the (nominal) control of East Germany and some other Warsaw Pact countries. When that little ruse came out it was a major embarrassment to the US State Department, who had been assuring Congress, as well as Reagan and then Bush, that the Soviets were in compliance with the treaty despite warnings to the contrary from various intelligence agencies.
 
Kadija_Man said:
bobbymike said:
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/china-says-it-successfully-tests-new-type-of-missile

Why we continue to be a party to a treaty, INF, that the counter party is in violation of and our major strategic competitor is not even a part of and in fact has a multi-hundred arsenal in, is mind boggling to me.
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Of course, the fact it secured the peace in Europe and helped end the Cold War is forgotten, isn't it? ::)
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And I'm sure the Treaty of Westphalia was effective at the time. The point being times change the world and the threats we face are different. INF was signed with not a thought given to the threat of dozens if not hundreds of Chinese IRBMs possibly with maneuvering hypersonic glide vehicles targeting our carriers typically outside the range of our offensive weaponry. Locking yourself into a 30 year old Treaty given this new reality is folly at best and dangerous at worst.
 
Cleaned up and temporarily locked, until the flared tempers have cooled down a bit. ::)
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-china-islands-idUSKBN19L02J
 
As it was locked only "temporarily", let's have a try and see, if a reasonable discussion is posible now ....
 
Grey Havoc said:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2159891/string-chinese-satellites-keep-real-time-watch-south

China will next year start launching a series of satellites to track water conditions and traffic, and reinforce “national sovereignty” throughout the South China Sea, according to state media.

In all, six optical satellites, two hyperspectral satellites and two radar satellites will keep a real-time daily watch on the contested waters and monitor key areas several times a day as part of the Hainan satellite constellation system, China News Service reported on Monday.

Yang Tianliang, director of the academy’s Sanya Institute of Remote Sensing, said the network would enable authorities based in Hainan to speed up their response to emergencies, more effectively administer the South China Sea, and improve exploration and development of the resource-rich waters.

“Each reef and island as well as each vessel in the South China Sea will be under the watch of the ‘space eyes’,” Yang said. “The system will [reinforce] national sovereignty, protection of fisheries, and marine search and rescue.”

The programme is being carried out by the Chinese Academy of Sciences and is expected to be completed by 2021.

In the programme’s first phase, three of the optical satellites will be launched in the second half of next year. They will be equipped with optical remote sensors, a system to identify ships and cameras designed to monitor the ocean’s surface.

The network’s initial priority was to cover all of the South China, Sea so the cameras in the first three satellites will be strong enough only to focus on large and mid-sized vessels, the report said.

The two hyperspectral satellites to be launched in the second phase in 2020 will be able to assess water conditions, while the synthetic aperture radar satellites to be sent into orbit in the third phase will be able to provide all-weather, high-definition monitoring.

Yang said that when the network is completed, it will cover the entire area between the 30th north and south parallels, and could offer “seamless monitoring and receiving system” of tropical regions.

“This is will cover most of the Maritime Silk Road area,” he said when the programme was launched in December.

The oil and resource-rich waters of the South China Sea are claimed by China, the Philippines, Brunei, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan.

Tensions have risen in the area with China’s construction of artificial islands equipped with military facilities, and the deployment of military vessels by other claimants and the United States.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/us-b52s-china-tensions/index.html
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/american-warship-sails-near-spratly-islands-challenging-china-1538290867
 
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chinese-warship-45-yards-uss-decatur-south-china/story?id=58210760
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-military/china-condemns-u-s-for-south-china-sea-freedom-of-navigation-operation-idUSKCN1MC04F
 
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/03/politics/us-navy-show-of-force-china/index.html
 
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/bolton-warns-chinese-military-halt-dangerous-naval-encounters/
 
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/mattis-chinas-island-militarization-continues/

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis this week voiced new U.S. opposition to China's continued militarization of islands in the South China Sea.

"We remain highly concerned with continued militarization of features in the South China Sea," Mattis told reporters on Monday as he traveled to Vietnam.

Mattis also said China is using predatory economics to seek control over other nations.

The Chinese are engaged in a global infrastructure development plan called the Belt and Road Initiative that U.S. officials have said is being used by Beijing to expand influence and control abroad, and expand Chinese military bases around the world.

Mattis said the predatory economic policies include loans "where massive debt is piled on countries that fiscal analysis would say they are going to have difficulty, at best, repaying in the smaller countries."
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/2174738/beijing-plans-ai-atlantis-south-china-sea-without-human-sight

Earlier story that may be related: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1049455/world-war-3-china-underwater-military-base-south-china-sea-united-states
 
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