British Manned Spacecraft

Hi,


is there any drawing survivor to BAC P.55 lift body ?.
 
Hi Folks,
Avro may have had a proposal, UK, Farnborough started on Bluff re-entry vehicle studies by 1948.
The switch from Nova to Saturn V was because in part the weight saving attributed to UK Heatshield material and the Fuel cell Imperial college. UK bluff re-entry capsules proposals middle fifties.
spark.
 
Hi Spark,


do you have a drawing to it ?,thanks.
 
Hi
sorry, I think all shredded. I never saw the drawings. only word of mouth.

hesham said:
Hi Spark,


do you have a drawing to it ?,thanks.
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NOTE. The launch pads were already in place at Woomera 1959/60 for a similar size vehicle,
from memory of RR/lecture document about 550,000lb AUW 35,000lb payoad, three stage SLV 27,500lb empty. (LH/LOX upper stages.) Factory built in Essex latter half of fifties.

Barrington Bond said:
Could it be at all possible that the 4th from left may be it?
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Anyone had a look at this?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C490036

I was having a rummage in the catalogue and found it.

Chris
 
Hi,
do you have the original there was a ten feet to one inch scale, could you scale the craft please?.
spark

Grey Havoc said:
CNH said:
There was actually an OR - 9001.

In the PRO, you will find a very long study for the vehicle in question carried out by the RAE. Like most RAE studies, it was completely divorced from reality. Here's a pic:
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CJGibson said:
There is a brief outline of OR.9001 and OR.9002 (counter satellite system) in BSP.4. As CNH says, the RAE were somewhat divorced from reality. There was also a (possibly) more realistic OR.9003 for a recon sat/vehicle.

Chris
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Excuse me my dears and my friends,


I can recognize what was this,they wrote on it a British idea,but did we speak
about it before ?.


http://www.bis-space.com/what-we-do/projects/project-manned-orbital-winged-rocket
 

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How could we forget this classic British Manned Spacecraft? ;D


http://youtu.be/wUq1EuMT3dA?t=5m16s
 
Hi TsrJoe,


I think my dear GTX is right,and may be it was just a fake or a hypothetical design.
 
TsrJoe said:
sweet, A.9/A.10 derived design perhaps ?
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Nope
Is a 5 stage design that inherited the A4 aerodynamic and Engine
first, second and fifth Stage are reusable.

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My dear Michel,


that means it was real design ?.
 
A real design in the sense that British Interplanetary Society members who were engineers designed it to the best knowledge of the time period but without a hope in hell of ever getting funding for such!

Regards,
Barry
 
Barrington Bond said:
Aeronautics Jan 1960
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Also from Missiles and Rockets;


https://archive.org/stream/missilesrockets8196unse#page/n803/mode/2up
 

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Michel Van said:
and if recall right there were some post here in space project
about that RAF had idea of license build or buy Gemini or MOL hardware from USA
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Apologies for the zombie resurrection, but this has really caught my imagination...unfortunately I can find nothing about it.

Does anyone have any information about this possible British Gemini programme?
 
ZacYates said:
Michel Van said:
and if recall right there were some post here in space project
about that RAF had idea of license build or buy Gemini or MOL hardware from USA
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Apologies for the zombie resurrection, but this has really caught my imagination...unfortunately I can find nothing about it.

Does anyone have any information about this possible British Gemini programme?
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somewhere in here is information you looking for...

British manned program in 60s?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5063.0.html
Blue Streak based satellite transport system
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5063.0.html
British Manned Spacecraft
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4131.0.html
British Spacestation
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6923.0.html
RAF Manned Capsule
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5657.0.html
MOL Program
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4024.0.html
 
Unfortunately no - unless looking for phrases including "Gemini", "MOL", "British" and/or "RAF" in each of those threads is wrong! I can't find what you referred to in your May 2012 post at all, nor does a Google search bring up anything.

It's an intriguing idea and would make for a cool model, in my opinion!
 
There was a concept where the "orbiter" had an external tank that was wing-shaped that was in the Military Secret Projects book as a single illustration and single paragraph, was that ever examined in more depth?

Randy
 
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On astronautix there's a page detailing moon lander design from the 30s, and a V-2 based suborbital design from the 40s. Also the project with the 3 shuttle looking things has a video on hazegrayart, if anyone's interested
 

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