Brabazon Type 4 Comet Predecessors

[Maveric]

Hi all,

have found this three pics from aircraft-projects to the Type 4 specification of the british Brabazon Committee. Can you name this planes?

Thanks Maveric

 

[Jemiba]

The first was described in Air International April 1977 as "the earliest
DH jet transport project", the others are the DH 106, design from early
1945, the other from May 1945.

 

[Maveric]

Uiuiui, this was the fastest answer I can remember...
Thanks Jemiba. Hoffe in Berlin ist das Wetter ebenso gut, wie in den bayrischen Biergärten. Liebe Grüße

 

[Jemiba]

"We all should work hard and try seriously to become better and better every day,
so that one day in a not too distant future, 10 minutes may be the longest time
we have to wait for an answer !" ;D

We had another step to the Comet here :

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3355.0/highlight,comet.html

Wenn das Wetter in den Biergärten genauso ist, wird wenigstens das Bier in der Maß nicht
alle, nur dünner ..

Gruß aus Berlin

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here in the picture; was the lower aircraft,the early De Havilland
Comet design ?,or it didn't relate to De Havilland at all !.

 

[flateric]

This was one of the first designs put forward for the Type 4
Brabazon Committee proposals. The aircraft featured a canard
layout with the three engines clustered in the rear fuselage.

 

[toura]

HI hesham
See on "wikipedia"

 

[Antonio]

Hesham,

That initial design from de Havilland for Type 4 Brabazon called for a jet powered fast mail plane and could be considered the Comet ancestor.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears Flateric,Toura and Pometablava very much.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


From Air Pictorial July 1999.

 

[archipeppe]

Hi,


From Air Pictorial July 1999.

Absolutely interesting, many thanks Hesham!!


I'm puzzled about the canard design, where are the air intakes?

 

[Arjen]

I'm puzzled about the canard design, where are the air intakes?

My copy of the Davies/Birtles book shows the canard design with intakes in the wingroots and at the base of the fin.
Don't have the copy with me now, but I found a cover image on which I've outlined the intakes in red.

 

[Jemiba]

Good clue, thank you!
Actuall, it reminded me of the Dornier racer we had here http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5013.msg118485.html#msg118485
As no inlet is visible in the other drawing, maybe a similar method was intended ?
BTW, the "enlarged Vampire", was already mentioned here : http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1936.msg25539.html#msg25539

 

[Stargazer]

Both versions of the cover exist:

• without dorsal intake on the Crowood Press (British) site: http://www.crowood.com/details.asp?isbn=9781888962147
• with dorsal intake on the Wind Canyon Books (US) site: http://www.windcanyonbooks.com/product_info.php?products_id=1750

And so it would seem that the British and American versions feature different versions. Weird!

Another MAJOR difference is in the number of pages: 96 for the UK version and only 65 for the American one!

 

[Stargazer]

Both versions of the cover exist:

• without dorsal intake on the Crowood Press (British) site: http://www.crowood.com/details.asp?isbn=9781888962147
• with dorsal intake on the Wind Canyon Books (US) site: http://www.windcanyonbooks.com/product_info.php?products_id=1750

And so it would seem that the British and American versions feature different versions. Weird!

Another MAJOR difference is in the number of pages: 96 for the UK version and only 65 for the American one!

I have the Paladwr Press version (now marketed by Wind Canyon) and I'm afraid it only had one diagram of an early project (attached below). And so the Crowood Press version is probably a lot more exhaustive... :-\

I'm also attaching plans from Specialty Press's Airliner Tech #7 on the De Havilland Comet.

 

[hesham]

The engines appears here better.

 

[Grey Havoc]

On a tangent:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/1jozc3v/they_tried_rockets_on_the_comet_too_the_g51

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/1jozc3v/they_tried_rockets_on_the_comet_too_the_g51/

 

[PMN1]

I have the Paladwr Press version (now marketed by Wind Canyon) and I'm afraid it only had one diagram of an early project (attached below). And so the Crowood Press version is probably a lot more exhaustive... :-\

I'm also attaching plans from Specialty Press's Airliner Tech #7 on the De Havilland Comet.

In the 4th one, are the engines in the wing as in the Comet or below it?

The intakes certainly look to be below it.

 

[Stargazer]

In the 4th one, are the engines in the wing as in the Comet or below it?
The intakes certainly look to be below it.

The front view shows them to be inside the wing, although it's not quite clear in the profile view.