Boeing Vertol alternate HLH proposals and other crane helicopters

[hercules130]

That was a great project. I am still incredulous that the leadership at Ft. Rucker elected to destroy the prototype. All that is left now are some data plates and the hook. :'(

The HLH mock up was heavily damaged in a hurricane and was never meant to sit outside and was heavily corroded. The only incredulity should be in the manner it was displayed.
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I could be remembering wrong, Ill have to check my photos but I believe the Rucker photo here predates 2005.

Gary

 

[JohnR]

By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.

 

[hercules130]

By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.

I am not sure what killed the program. I have seen discussions here about wether it was an incomplete prototype or a mock up. I can tell you from seeing the beast all broken up after hurricane/scrapping that it was not built to fly, just a mock up. Perhaps cnx was due to pod fascination going out of style, or perhaps Skycrane killed.

Sadly my visits to the museum were always targeted, and depended on curator for storage access. I did not get to spend a lot of time exploring the museum proper
I did a walk through and it is a fantastic place to go if you have the opportunity. I was only
a couple hours away at the time, and regret not visiting more.
G

 

[yasotay]

I was there the day it was torn up. The data plates, sticks and grips and the HUGE cargo hook were recovered. The contractor who was hired to destroy the vehicle gave us thirty minutes. I am half guessing but I think the engines needed were not ready and with the Army's focus on Europe the need for it vice other program efforts caused it to be cancelled.

 

[hercules130]

Some parts (don’t know what) were supposedly taken to the Helicopter Museum at Weston-super-Mare UK (wiki article for what that’s worth), saw not mention on their website.

Anyone know?

 

[uk 75]

Boeing Vertol XCH-62 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The landing gear according to the Museum mag cited at footnote 14.

 

[jstar]

Boeing XCH-62

Details of exhibits at the helicopter museum

helimuseum.com

 

[hercules130]

Boeing Vertol XCH-62 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The landing gear according to the Museum mag cited at footnote 14.

Thanks, totally missed that.

 

[Pioneer]

Found what might be a Boeing-Vertol self promotion piece on their HLH efforts... A beautiful bit of artwork and of interest is the kneeling capability, which I've never seen before.

Regards
Pioneer

 

[dan_inbox]

It looks like the XCH-62.

 

[Hood]

Found what might be a Boeing-Vertol self promotion piece on their HLH efforts...

Its from the British kids magazine Look and Learn (No 495 10/7/1971) and painted by its resident artist Wilf Hardy.

 

[RavenOne]

Happy new year all came across this on FB.

cheers

(attachement see #130)

 

[Hood]

Deja vu... https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...-and-other-crane-helicopters.565/#post-507650

Perhaps the HLH threads should be merged or tidied?

done

 

[Mark Nankivil]

A recent donation to the Museum harvested this color art of the drawing posted earlier in #20 and #83. Rather like the forward gear set up on this - Praying Mantis comes to mind...

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[yasotay]

The real fun is betting on how far the marshalling soldier standing in front of the beast would have been blown on take off.

Copilot (peering over the instument panel) - "What's that guy doing? Should we tell him to move or something?"

Pilot - "Naw. Bet $10 we blast him twenty feet."

Flight Engineer - "I'm in for thirty feet."

Copilot - "twentyfive!"

 

[robunos]

Rather like the forward gear set up on this - Praying Mantis comes to mind...

Always reminds me of a silverback gorilla . . .

cheers,
Robin.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1973.

 

[NoBarrelRolls]

Found these in the Digital Commonwealth archives, seem to be part of a presentation deck:







Here are the links:

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vh53z550w

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vh53z432r

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vh53z4527

 

[fightingirish]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567276714169974784

View: https://twitter.com/PAVE_naught/status/1567276714169974784?t=LEX3KaqmNehpkI7ykoExHQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565090361046958080

View: https://twitter.com/PAVE_naught/status/1565090361046958080?t=Yv0jgbpn588ditWrT6V03g&s=19

 

[BlackBat242]

By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.

I am not sure what killed the program. I have seen discussions here about wether it was an incomplete prototype or a mock up. I can tell you from seeing the beast all broken up after hurricane/scrapping that it was not built to fly, just a mock up.

No, that was the prototype... according to Boeing:

Heavy Lift Helicopter - Prototype Technical Summary Boeing Vertol Co April 1980.
.....
Design, fabrication, and assembly of one prototype HLH was 90 percent completed. An advanced aluminum honeycomb airframe, landing gear, and subsystems not included in the ATC effort were designed and fabricated. Limited laboratory tests were conducted to assure airworthiness of the prototype aircraft. Mockups were constructed of the crew compartment and aft area.

 

[hesham]

From Vertiflite 2002.

 

[alanqua]

From Vertiflite 2002.

Hello,
I did this drawing more than 20 years ago (! time is passing so fast). Here is a higher resolution in attachment. It was fun to do it, and the machine is so extraordinary! An article had been submitted in Vertiflite, but I'm not sure if the author submitted it for other magazines (maybe Le Fana de l'Aviation but I'm not sure).
I attached also some other drawings I did.
The Anigrand model maker isssued a 3 view plan on their box that seems quite interesting.
Maybe one day I will make a new 3 views plan, as I progressed a little bit in my graphics, because I feel the plan I did was too simplistic, we could do so much more with a whatif in operation or with different schemes.

 

[hesham]

A large view,from Flight 1969.

 

[Helicoprion]

 

[Helicoprion]

The HLH prototype under construction in the Vertol factory.

 

[RAP]

Found on the internet, no further details.

 

[Hispano]

A Boeing-Vertol project for a future crane helicopter of 20-30 t payload (circa 1970). I'm interested in a model number.

SOURCE: German magazine "Der Flieger" 2-3/1970 (page 62)

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the Boeing Vertol BV.166-006 was four engined twin boom VHL warm-cycle
helicopter project,it appeared in 1972.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930008694_1993008694.pdf

My dear Jemiba did amazing drawing (3-view) for this project,all thanks
to him.

 

[hesham]

Chinook crane concept photo?

Source:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Boeing-Vertol-Division-Press-Photo-/111232023182?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item19e5f1fa8e

From Army Aviation 1968/7,with a little bit more Info.

 

[hesham]

From Army Aviation 1975/5

 

[Stargazer]

Boeing HLH aft transmission (4 August 1981):

National Archives NextGen Catalog

The online portal to the records held at the National Archives, and information about those records.

catalog.archives.gov

 

[foiling]

My dear Jemiba did amazing drawing (3-view) for this project,all thanks
to him.

Excellent.

 

[fightingirish]

The two appetizers, but the other pictures have been posted before.
Source (German, but behind a Paywall):

Riesenhubschrauber für die US Army: Boeing XCH-62: Monsterprojekt endet als Schrott

In den 70er Jahren entwickelte Boeing im Auftrag der US Army einen Hubschrauber-Giganten, der bis zu 35 Tonnen schleppen konnte. Er wäre der größte Hubschrauber der westlichen Welt geworden.

www.flugrevue.de