Boeing Model Designations

[nugo]

Hi All!



Thank you very much aim9xray!
Very interesting details of Boeing own sponsored proposals and competitive proposals.




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[nugo]

Stargazer,


You say that you have information all numbers from 1 to 475.
There are from 1 to 385, and please show us from 386 to 475.


Thanks in advance!

 

[Stargazer]

You say that you have information all numbers from 1 to 475.
There are from 1 to 385, and please show us from 386 to 475.

I've been working for several years on a Boeing index, and all the new information means I've been working a LOT more on it.

I'm planning to share it here when it's completed and proof-read...

 

[hesham]

OK Stargazer,


and I hope from our mercy God to get us only early aircraft list for;


Bell D series
Curtiss P series
Douglas Models
Hughes Models
Republic AP series
Ryan Models
Piasecki-Vertol PD,PH & V series
Vought VE & V series


Just wish.

 

[Stargazer]

Here's Boeing Models 378 to 475 (minus 430 and 438 — not used), and 479-486, 490, 495, 497, 498.

Enjoy!

 

[Steve Pace]

Thanks, Stephane! -SP

 

[hesham]

Excellent my dear Stargazer,


thank you very much.

 

[Maveric]

Very good work Stephane, thanks. :

 

[nugo]

Hi All!
Thank you very much my friend Stargazer!
Great job. Now unknown 12 proposals: Model 476, 477, 478, 487, 488, 489, 491, 492, 493, 494, 496 and 499.
Maybe including proposals will: proposal of the competition for MX-955 (T-28)---Model 47?, competitor of the XV-1, 2, 3--- Model 49?.

 

[Antonio]

Excellent work Stéphane. Many thanks.

 

[asiscan]

Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.

 

[Stargazer]

Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.

I do not know of any numbers in the 1600+ range but these surely must have existed.
It's very difficult to understand how Boeing Model Numbers work beyond #1000, but one thing for sure is that they are not allocated chronologically. For instance, the 1991 HSCT studies were given Model Number "1080", while the 1993 studies seem to have received the number "1873". So if you've seen a 1600+ designation for the EX program, it could be genuine... Do you have a source? A reference?

 

[asiscan]

Sorry no source, only speculation based purely on the code painted on the official Boeing EX scale model - 160137, assuming Model 1601 dash 37. It's not uncommon for a company artist or model maker to include a genuine reference to the aircraft by mistake example: Northrop N336-12 VATOL in 1978 illustration . In regards to Boeing number system it would be up to the 1600's by 1990, and there are many examples of non sequential codes such as wide bodied transports in the 1000 series from 1978 and different aircraft design programs clustered in a non-common series example: Model 985 microfighter series of 1973 that also later included much larger tactical fighter design series from 1982.

 

[boxkite]

Any hints of possible model numbers for

- Bird of Prey (and a McDD model number for the origin of this aircraft)
- T-X contender (together with Saab)

?

 

[boxkite]

From "American Secret Projects: Bombers" Page 12

The starting point for Boeing's jet bomber studies was the Model 413 from the autumn of 1943, which would have been a response to the initial request for studies made in June of that year

That's the B-47 oldest ancestor...anybody has a picture of this design?

Thanks in advance,

Antonio

Habermehl & Hopkins' new book on B-47 shows a simple three-view of Model 413 - see page 11 top.

 

[Silencer1]

Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).
Here is the Boeing's designation list from the book - see attachement.

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 - PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 - Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 - Burner II for USAF

 

[hesham]

Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 Burner II for USAF

What was it my dear Silencer.

 

[Silencer1]

Hello, hesham!

What was it my dear Silencer.

The designations of Boeing-built items, that previously didn't listed in this thread.
Actually, it could be found in another topics of this forum, for example, in Naval section.

 

[Vahe Demirjian]

In the book American Secret Projects 2: US Airlifters 1941 to 1961, the Boeing Model 493 is a turboprop-powered derivative of the Boeing 367. It came in two versions, the 165-ft span Model 493-3-2 and the 182-ft span Model 493-8. The Model 493-3-2 was thought to have been designated C-127 but this is not borne out by USAF records, as the C-127 designation was used for the YC-124B.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Boeing 737-8200 - Alternate designation of Boeing 737 MAX 200.

 

[fightingirish]

Boeing Model 436 - US Navy - four engine patrol landplane study

Source:

scan0054

Visit the post for more.

thejivebombers.com

 

[fightingirish]

Boeing Model 461 - US Navy - four turboprop engine patrol/patrol bomber landplane study

Boeing Model 461: Second in the series on the development of the B-52… and early postwar turboprop heavy bomber

Edit:
Scott Lowther aka Orionblamblam also mentions this artist's version of a six-engined Boeing Model 461 on page 114 in his book "Origins and Evolution. Boeing B-47 Stratojet and B-52 Stratofortress".
Source:

scan0056

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thejivebombers.com

 

[Grey Havoc]

The aforementioned YL-15 Scout:

Boeing YL-15 Scout: Winner of my heart (XII).

Even the giant Boeing company also found themselves during the immediate post-World War II looking for ways to keep the income coming. Diversification was the name of the game, and it came to them …

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[Stargazer]

The aforementioned YL-15 Scout:

Boeing YL-15 Scout: Winner of my heart (XII).

Even the giant Boeing company also found themselves during the immediate post-World War II looking for ways to keep the income coming. Diversification was the name of the game, and it came to them …

elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com

Not quite appropriate for a "designations" topic, though, is it? A dedicated topic "Boeing Wichita Model 200 / Boeing Model 451 "Scout" (Army YL-15)" is long overdue...