Blended Wing Bodies

[Colonial-Marine]

Just saw the original post of that massive nuclear powered VTOL ummm, aircraft carrier.

I thought we ran out of such crazy ideas in the 1960s. Are those (retractable?) side bays behind the cockpit area just for more lift engines? While completely crazy, I suppose it is technically possible. Would probably cost as much as a Nimitz class carrier to maintain however, among other things.

The other smaller designs certainly look much more feasible.

And Moonbat, there are some very complex combat flight sims out there, although most come from developers in Eastern Europe these days.

 

[donnage99]

Video for what Hesham posted of reconfigurable transport concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deDlDmTRT74&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk2LsKsud_s&feature=channel

 

[Hammer Birchgrove]

Games are for kids

Some times big kids.

 

[airrocket]

Build and your own BWB. Put a small UAV turbine in it and paint it black and make like a secret stealth project.

http://www.wingco.com/atlantica_design.htm

 

[sferrin]

Better yet, paint it black and slap a red star on the side and watch the aviation rags go nuts.

 

[sublight]

Build and your own BWB. Put a small UAV turbine in it and paint it black and make like a secret stealth project.

http://www.wingco.com/atlantica_design.htm

Guys in Medellin are probably working on that right now. They have a transportation budget equal to or exceeding Walmart....

 

[Just call me Ray]

Lady in the first vid is cute


http://www.wingco.com/atlantica_design.htm
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I've heard of them, but I haven't heard of any progress they made or if there are any kits sold. I know the plane started out as a completely different configuration.

Guys in Medellin are probably working on that right now. They have a transportation budget equal to or exceeding Walmart....

Medellin?

 

[sublight]

Lady in the first vid is cute


http://www.wingco.com/atlantica_design.htm

I've heard of them, but I haven't heard of any progress they made or if there are any kits sold. I know the plane started out as a completely different configuration.

Guys in Medellin are probably working on that right now. They have a transportation budget equal to or exceeding Walmart....

Medellin?
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http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4291/Overview

 

[Stuka]

Atlantica crashed in 2003 on a high speed taxi test when the airplane unexpectedly became airborne. NTSB report HERE. Message from the designer/pilot about the incident HERE. It doesn't look like much has happened since then.

 

[Sundog]

Atlantica crashed in 2003 on a high speed taxi test when the airplane unexpectedly became airborne. NTSB report HERE. Message from the designer/pilot about the incident HERE. It doesn't look like much has happened since then.

IIRC, it had serious stability and control issues. The last I had heard, they were considering adding tail booms and a tail, but that was a couple of years ago.

 

[donnage99]

NASA forward-swept/blended wing body and box-wing/blended body hybrids.

 

[Triton]

Russian concept of a 938 passenger aircraft with a range of 6,280 nautical miles, cruise Mach number = 0.8, and L/D = 25 (courtesy of Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute - TsAGI and Aeronautical Systems Analysis Division, NASA Langley).

Source: http://www.aee.odu.edu/fas.php?id=2

 

[Nick]

Does the Sukhoi T-4MS count in this category?

 

[slamode40]

No.It's not a BWB,and there's already a catagory for the T-4MS

 

[Grey Havoc]

I've heard some of the military folk referred to as "Powerpoint Warriors"

The term these days is "Powerpoint Rangers", so I've heard.

 

[yasotay]

I've heard some of the military folk referred to as "Powerpoint Warriors"

The term these days is "Powerpoint Rangers", so I've heard.

Indeed "Powerpoint Rangers" are legion throughout the Army. Air Force tends to go with "Hour Ratings" and some wags even have "2000 hour Powerpoint" badges on their flight suits where they might otherwise have aircraft patches. A sure sign of a soul lost in staff hell at a Headquarters somewhere.

Now back to your regularly posted BWB discussion. ;D

 

[Grey Havoc]

NASA's N3-X hybrid wing-body (HWB) design:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/aviation_week/on_space_and_technology/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog:a68cb417-3364-4fbf-a9dd-4feda680ec9cPost:ea7a1fa9-2129-4c67-a93c-52ca6bda8e81

 

[Kryptid]

NASA's N3-X hybrid wing-body (HWB) design:

I found their "turboelectric distributed propulsion" concept quite interesting. I wonder if this idea has been tested yet?

 

[hesham]

The Blended-Wing-Body Business Jet aircraft;


http://aeroblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/conceptual-design-of-blended-wing-body-business-jet/

 

[hesham]

Hi,


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20100036222_2010039460.pdf

 

[Grey Havoc]

Hear This - The BWB is Quiet! (Things With Wings blog)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOuoaStTUFc&feature=player_embedded

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the AC20.30.

http://www.ac2030.de/sites/ac2030/ac2030_eng.html

And from Flieger Revue magazine,the AC20.30.

 

[hesham]

Russian concept of a 938 passenger aircraft with a range of 6,280 nautical miles, cruise Mach number = 0.8, and L/D = 25 (courtesy of Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute - TsAGI and Aeronautical Systems Analysis Division, NASA Langley).

Source: http://www.aee.odu.edu/fas.php?id=2

Hi,


here is the Aerospatiale and TsAGI BWB aircraft concept of 1996.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


http://www.sharemysky.org/2014/01/future-of-flight/

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the AC20.30.

http://www.ac2030.de/sites/ac2030/ac2030_eng.html

And from Flieger Revue magazine,the AC20.30.

Also here is the HAW AC20.30 Model and AC20.40 Variants.

 

[Stargazer]

here is the Aerospatiale,Boeing and TsAGI BWB aircraft concept of 2001.

Absolutely NOT. The caption clearly says it's the RUSSIAN concept, therefore TsAGI.

 

[hesham]

here is the Aerospatiale,Boeing and TsAGI BWB aircraft concept of 2001.

Absolutely NOT. The caption clearly says it's the RUSSIAN concept, therefore TsAGI.

My dear Skyblazer,


it was from France and Russian,in cooperation for BWB,and you are right not Boeing,I will
correct it.

 

[flateric]

Hesham, it was proprietary TsAGI design as you was told already. Dubbed LK-103 configuration. No NASA or whatever else was involved.

 

[hesham]

My dear Flateric,


I am not saying that,the report who said that;

 

[Jemiba]

".. subsequently a Russian BWB project was published, designed with French support. Dimensions
even exceeded those studies by Boeing and Aèrospatiale. The concept by TsAGI would have had a
span of 106 m ..."

There's a French participation mentioned, but it is said loud and clear, that it basically was a TsAGI
project. Another case of a misinterpreted online translation ?
Please, please ask in such cases before posting ! Otherwise Russian/US/French joint projects in the field
of BWB (or others), mentioned this way here may well fly forever in the skies of the internet !! :

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Jemiba,


and my apology to my dear Flateric,but the fault is for Google translation,they translate it as;
"Russian with French cooperation".

 

[KJ_Lesnick]

While I have read various things about the BWB designs: I am curious as to what the early designs looked like, and how they overcame issues such as pressurization of a squarish pressure hull

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a double deck BWB aircraft.


http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/download/fuselagem-design.pdf

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a BWB in digital image form,designed by RAeS.


http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/49379/1/AFM0708FINAL.pdf

 

[hesham]

Russian concept of a 938 passenger aircraft with a range of 6,280 nautical miles, cruise Mach number = 0.8, and L/D = 25 (courtesy of Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute - TsAGI and Aeronautical Systems Analysis Division, NASA Langley).

Source: http://www.aee.odu.edu/fas.php?id=2

Here is the same design with some data.

Studiendepartment Fahrzeugtechnik und Flugzeugbau
Recherche zu patentierten Flugzeugkonfigurationen
Verfasser: Stephan Müller

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/Aero/Aero_ART_Festschrift-FZT-sammel_10-06-04.pdf

 

[hesham]

Here is the same design with some data.

Studiendepartment Fahrzeugtechnik und Flugzeugbau
Recherche zu patentierten Flugzeugkonfigurationen
Verfasser: Stephan Müller

Here is a TsAGI BWB aircraft from 1995,the third drawing,I don't know if it was from the same
founder or not ?.

http://alternathistory.com/ravnobedrennyi-treugolnyi-i-letaet-proekt-passazhirskogo-samoleta-tsagi-letayushchee-krylo-900-rossi

 

[Sundog]

The last drawing is a version of the Handley Page Aerobus. It went the opposite direction of most airliners, it went with a low aspect ratio wing that was really thick, which allowed for a very light structure, comparatively speaking. Which would have made it less expensive to build. However, it wasn't as aerodynamically efficient due to the low aspect ratio wing. But it was designed for short haul flights (London to Paris) so it could still compete with standard designs. I've always thought it was a very smart design for a short range airliner.

So to answer your question; It's definitely not the same founder.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Sundog,

I forget it.

 

[bobbymike]

http://www.nasa.gov/aero/nasa-researchers-turn-noise-predictions-into-sound-and-video