Black Horse

The theory works - it has been re-proofed five times by my little self, see attached. Now the practicality... that's another story. Even more with SH-Starship as the great TSTO-RLV benchmark.
 

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That looks a lot like my idea of of a Buran-like Shuttle-2 orbiter.

No way it could reach orbit on its own.

Roc could carry something like Black Horse as an all liquid space plane for Virgin--but that is likely also suborbital.

Roc/Black Horse might be okay for HOT EAGLE/SUSTAIN?

Not as unwieldy as Starship SuperHeavy---but I would want a JMOB/SeaBase for it.
 
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publiusr said:
That looks a lot like my idea of of a Buran-like Shuttle-2 orbiter.

No way it could reach orbit on its own.

Roc could carry something like Black Horse as an all liquid space plane for Virgin--but that is likely also suborbital.

Roc/Black Horse might be okay for HOT EAGLE/SUSTAIN?

Not as unwieldy as Starship SuperHeavy---but I would want a JMOB/SeaBase for it.
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There's a Teledyne/Ryan spaceplane concept that could get to orbit off the back of a 747 so something that Roc could carry could make orbit if t was needed.

Randy
 
Interim HOTOL 1990, too. Except it used the late An-225, with additional turbofans. I have the paper somewhere, the subsonic carrier would cut 1200 m/s from the usual 9300 m/s ascent to orbit.
 
martinbayer said:
Sure, looked cool, but there have been oodles of 747 based concepts like that, e.g. by Len Cormier. Not very much new under the sun...
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Ya but most of them required extensive modifications either the 747 airfame or to it's flight plan. Often both. The DeLong spaceplane and the later versions of the Tspace triple barrel ALV needed the least modifications. (Essentially turned the 747 into a water tanker which could be considered a 'bonus' I suppose :) )

Randy
 

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