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Artist's impression of AVX 300.

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Did not think this warranted a new thread so I am putting some stuff here.
I was going through one of the piles of junk that manifest themselves in my office and found an "old" AVX brochure with a couple of interesting concepts. Interestingly the AVX team had argued that it was time for attack rotorcraft to go single pilot, with the advances in automation that are occuring.
 

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I absolutely LOVE the ATK! Thanks a lot for sharing these nice designs.
 
It would be interesting to get estimated dimensions for that single-seat attack platform...
 
Avimimus said:
It would be interesting to get estimated dimensions for that single-seat attack platform...
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I am guessing it is about MD500 or Ka 226 size... perhaps even smaller.
 
yasotay said:
...Interestingly the AVX team had argued that it was time for attack rotorcraft to go single pilot, with the advances in automation that are occuring.
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IIRC, Kamov was convincing the Russian armed forces of the same, but the now current Ka-50/52 versions seems
to be all twin seater.
 
Jemiba said:
yasotay said:
...Interestingly the AVX team had argued that it was time for attack rotorcraft to go single pilot, with the advances in automation that are occuring.
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IIRC, Kamov was convincing the Russian armed forces of the same, but the now current Ka-50/52 versions seems
to be all twin seater.
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Militaries tend, for the most part, to be very conservative organizations. It is hard to get them to change what they know (witness the demise of horse cavalry in the early twentieth century). There is still grand debate on the appropriate number of aircrew needed for any particular mission. Even with UAS, the number of operators remains a contested issue. I believe as aircrew become managers of air vehicles (like modern airliners), vice pilot, the arguments against single aircrew aircraft may change.
 
yasotay said:
...I believe as aircrew become managers of air vehicles (like modern airliners), vice pilot, the arguments against single aircrew aircraft may change.
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I would think, that necessary cost savings may be a better "argument" for such changes. :-\
 
Artist's impressions of AVX 300

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Alas, neither of the rotorcraft in the picture will be a reality.
 
yasotay said:
Militaries tend, for the most part, to be very conservative organizations. It is hard to get them to change what they know (witness the demise of horse cavalry in the early twentieth century). There is still grand debate on the appropriate number of aircrew needed for any particular mission. Even with UAS, the number of operators remains a contested issue. I believe as aircrew become managers of air vehicles (like modern airliners), vice pilot, the arguments against single aircrew aircraft may change.
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In this case it seems to be that the Russians found that even with all the automation asking a pilot to also use all the verius weapons was gust to much work. Wich makes one wonder wether all those plans to have weponds controllers also control drones might also a bridge to far, especially with the leval of automation drones have these days.
 
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While wondering through my byzantine archive, rivaling that of Raiders of the Lost Ark fame, I found another picture of one of AVX's early FARA concepts. This particular version would have had a 38-foot diameter rotor system.
 
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More from the ancient files. This and the next are some of the AVX concept for the CS-3 program, which would become the FLRAA program. Ironically the design team for AVX were all retired Bell engineers who developed the V-22. They went this route as they thought the Army had no taste for tilt rotor and would prefer less expensive and more simple designs.
 
AVX_CS3_early_2.jpg Many were impressed with the design philosophy and wanted to move forward with their work. Unfortunately, they did not successfully team with any of the industry that actually had facilities and machinery to build and produce the aircraft.
 
If the rotor system looks familiar, it should. AVX made no secret about having drawn their rotor designs from Kamov. Relatively simple and functional.
 
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