Clearly the air flow in the case of the Tank's Pulqui-II, goes to the sides of the cabin and not below it, with better aerodynamics.Aardvark said:Very interesting work!
It seems to me to eat questions on a combination of the channel of an air inlet and a cabin, feet of the pilot couldn't is in an air stream, whether not so?
Whether saw you these photos
http://www.mincyt.cba.gov.ar/site/fabricamilitar/images/fotos/foto231z.jpg
http://www.mincyt.cba.gov.ar/site/fabricamilitar/images/fotos/foto230z.jpg
here:
http://www.mincyt.cba.gov.ar/site/fabricamilitar/fotos/fotos009.html
Judging by a photo the nasal part has slightly other rivets of a line!
According to the panel lines can be others?
You couldn't compare Pulki II with Lavochkin La-168 and Lavochkin La-176?
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/la-168.php
http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/la-176.php
There is something the general, whether a lie?
B.R. Serge
Hammer Birchgrove said:While I doubt Sweden (under a Social Democratic government) would sell SAAB J-29 Tunnan (or any other military aircraft) to Franco's Spain, it would probably gladly sell to India, which didn't happen.
Were the aerodynamic and the other possible issues with the Palqui II going to be solved?
This is true.MC72 said:Hammer Birchgrove said:While I doubt Sweden (under a Social Democratic government) would sell SAAB J-29 Tunnan (or any other military aircraft) to Franco's Spain, it would probably gladly sell to India, which didn't happen.
Were the aerodynamic and the other possible issues with the Palqui II going to be solved?
Sweden makes good airplanes! But its policy of extrict neutrality, preclude the sale of this aircraft...........a country like France more "open-minded" would have done great business with this same model.....No doubts!!
However there is a exception, the Tunnan was sold to the then "neutral" Austria, and even participates to the UN-forces for the secessionist conflict in the Congolese province of Katanga.
MC72 said:Hammer Birchgrove said:While I doubt Sweden (under a Social Democratic government) would sell SAAB J-29 Tunnan (or any other military aircraft) to Franco's Spain, it would probably gladly sell to India, which didn't happen.
Were the aerodynamic and the other possible issues with the Palqui II going to be solved?
Sweden makes good airplanes! But its policy of extrict neutrality, preclude the sale of this aircraft...........a country like France more "open-minded" would have done great business with this same model.....No doubts!!
However there is a exception, the Tunnan was sold to the then "neutral" Austria, and even participates to the UN-forces for the secessionist conflict in the Congolese province of Katanga.
MC72 said:There were no shortage of potentials Buyers outside the major alliances (USA-CCCP); The Spain of General Franco (friend of Argentina) needed replacements for their old fighters; There were some who need to begins to shoot right away, like the Arab countries or........... the explosive Indian sub-continent, of the time.
These could have been possible colors of the "Export" Pulqui-II.
The IA-33 Pulqui II, a swept-wing jet fighter designed by German engineer Kurt Tank, has been plagued with bad fortune, with the successive crash of two prototypes. Flight testing has recently resumed and has been described as especially satisfactory both in terms of maneuverability and speed — the speed of sound being attained in a dive. It is now likely that this aircraft will be produced. The United States are reportedly willing to acquire a Pulqui II in order to test it.
Motocar said:I have the cutaway drawing Pulqui II
kitnut617 said:If that is a Pulqui II, what are these
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211.0;attach=576918
Lovely. Will translate it properly when i get home.LAS FLECHAS ARGENTINAS – DESARROLLO E HISTORIA DE LOS PULQUI I Y PULQUI II DE LA FABRICA MILITAR DE AVIONES
By Atilio Marino (Avialatina Group)
I don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.
I don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.
I don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.
Thanks a lot for your photos.I don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.
Actually, the best of both projects was taken for the I.Ae.33 Pulqui II.
Later, the Argentine designers in charge of this project decided to leave the FMA. It seems to be because they felt displaced by the Germans and they did not share their information with their Argentine colleagues:
En Argentina hay muchos libros publicados sobre las FMA y Pulqui II, e información en sitios web en español de autores locales que tuvieron acceso directo a la información y documentos:No creo que hayamos tenido esto antes, la propuesta de Emile Dewotine para el Pulqui II, que fue rechazada por los argentinos a favor de los diseños de Kurt Tank.Muchas gracias por tus fotos.No creo que hayamos tenido esto antes, la propuesta de Emile Dewotine para el Pulqui II, que fue rechazada por los argentinos a favor de los diseños de Kurt Tank.
En realidad, lo mejor de ambos proyectos se lo llevó el I.Ae.33 Pulqui II.
Posteriormente, los diseñadores argentinos a cargo de este proyecto decidieron dejar la FMA. Parece ser porque se sintieron desplazados por los alemanes y no compartieron su información con sus colegas argentinos:
¿Cuáles son tus fuentes?
En los sitios web franceses https://aviationsmilitaires.net/v3/forum/reste-du-monde-26/topic/fma-iae-27-pulqui-2833/?page=1
Ellos dieron, hace algunos años, este enlace:
con estas dos "fotos" :
http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/1381952436.jpg
http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/9281332_orig.jpg
This is one of the best books about Pulqui I and III don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.Thanks a lot for your photos.I don't think we've had this before, Emile Dewotine's proposal for the Pulqui II, which was turned down by the Argentines in favour Kurt Tank's designs.
Actually, the best of both projects was taken for the I.Ae.33 Pulqui II.
Later, the Argentine designers in charge of this project decided to leave the FMA. It seems to be because they felt displaced by the Germans and they did not share their information with their Argentine colleagues:
What are your sources ?
On the French websites https://aviationsmilitaires.net/v3/forum/reste-du-monde-26/topic/fma-iae-27-pulqui-2833/?page=1
They gave, some years ago, this link :
F.M.A. Fábrica Militar de Aviones/Military Aircraft Factory
The I.Ae. 27 Pulqui I was an Argentine jet fighter designed at the "Instituto Aerotecnico" (AeroTechnical Institute) in 1946. Only one prototype was completed; unsatisfactory performance led to the...www.militariarg.com
with these two "photos" :