Argentinian Never-Were Warship Designs and Proposals

[Tzoli]

The next addition the Design 191 Battleship or as called Cruiser-Killer from Vickers:

Vickers Export Design 191 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 125 (pp) x 22,55 x 7,31m
Displacement: 12.000tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 203mm Belt
Engines: 15.500shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 37km/h (20knots)
Armaments:
2x1 12"/45 (306mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
2x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
4x2 7,5"/45 (190mm/45) Vickers Mk D Guns,
probably 24x1 3"/50 (76mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
2x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

The modified and lengthened Design 192:

Vickers Export Design 192 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 138,7 (pp) x 22,55 x 7,31m
Displacement: 12.500tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 15.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 37km/h (20knots)
Armaments:
2x2,8x1 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
14x1 3"/50 (76mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

And The Cruiser Export design 586:

Vickers Export Design 586 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had these characteristics:
Dimensions: 144,78m (pp) x 14,50m x 5,48m
Displacement: 6.800ons (Standard)
Engines: Unknown probably around 40-45.000shp Steam Turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 50km/h (27knots)
Range unknown, probably around 14.800km at 30km/h (8.000nm at 16knots)
Armour: Uniform 76mm Belt and Deck everywhere (only 76mm Belt was stated
Armaments:
5x1 6"/50 (152mm/50) Vickers Mk R Guns,
4x1 4"/45 (102mm/45) Vickers Mk K Guns,
1x1 3"/45 (76mm/45) QF HA Mk II AA Guns,
2x2 533mm Torpedo Tubes

 

[Akaloso Dudu]

Very good drawings!

In Scheina's 'Naval History', this following text indicates the interest of Argentina in Italian Battleships in 1901.

"The Argentines responded in May 1901 with an inquiry, possibly a full order, to Ansaldo for a new 15,000-long-ton (15,000 t) battleship design. This would mount a 305 mm (12 in) main battery and be capable of steaming at 20 knots (23 mph; 37 km/h)."

No other information about this design but it is probably the same Maipu Class, COLDOWN posted before.

 

[COLDOWN]

Very good drawings!

In Scheina's 'Naval History', this following text indicates the interest of Argentina in Italian Battleships in 1901.

"The Argentines responded in May 1901 with an inquiry, possibly a full order, to Ansaldo for a new 15,000-long-ton (15,000 t) battleship design. This would mount a 305 mm (12 in) main battery and be capable of steaming at 20 knots (23 mph; 37 km/h)."

No other information about this design but it is probably the same Maipu Class, COLDOWN posted before.

Yes. After the peace treaties with Chile, the constructions of these two battleships were canceled. The parts manufactured so far, including guns, were used in the construction of the Regina Margherita class or in the Regina Elena (I don't remember well, excuse me).
Source: von Rauch - Relevancia de los Cruceros Acorazados Clase Garibaldi

Ohhh, where can i find Scheina´s books in digital format (pdf)???

 

[TomS]

Ohhh, where can i find Scheina´s books in digital format (pdf)???

Seems to be out of print and not available as an e-book. Used copies don't appear to be very expensive.

 

[Tzoli]

Not even the russian farposst site have them as it seems

 

[Tzoli]

Next, the Design 211, again a Lord Nelson based design: (Based on avaiable data and time frame)

Vickers Export Design 211 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 129,84 (pp) x 23,24 x 7,47m
Displacement: 14.200tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 16.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 36km/h (19,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2,4x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
20x1 4"/50 (102mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
2x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Following with the laternative design A (B was probably either Steam Turbine driven or the secondary guns were in shielded mounts "as of Russian Practice"

Vickers Export Design 211A/B for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 129,54 (pp) x 23,24 x 7,47m
Displacement: 14.500tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 15.750shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts (probably Steam Turbines in design B)
Speed: 35km/h (19knots)
Armaments:
2x2,4x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
6x2, 8x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
2x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Next is Design 214 which was basically a modified G series of Lord Nelson preliminaries with 4" rather then 3" tertiary guns

Vickers Export Design 214 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 131,06 (pp) x 23,32 x 7,47m
Displacement: 14.500tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 14.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 34km/h (18,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
6x2 9,2"/50 (234mm/50) BL Mk IX Guns,
14x1 4"/50 (102mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
2x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Design 216, the fastest among the proposals so far and used as a basis for speed for the next few proposals.

Vickers Export Design 216 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 134,11 (pp) x 23,16 x 7,54m
Displacement: 14.500tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 17.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 36km/h (19,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
2x2,16x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Design 229:

Vickers Export Design 229 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 137,16 (pp) x 24,08 x 7,54m
Displacement: 16.500tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: Unknown shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 36km/h (19,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2,2x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
20x1 4"/50 (102mm/50) Vickers Mk B Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Design 230, was offered the same time as 229 (June 1906) which sacraficed the single 305mm turrets for more numerous 120mm and 254 rather 229mm Belt armour:

https://www.deviantart.com/tzoli/art/Vickers-Export-Design-230-for-Argentina-823700239

The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 134,11 (pp) x 23,47 x 7,54m
Displacement: 15.750tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: Unknown shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 36km/h (19,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
28x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Next is Armstrong's idea for Argentina though like the armoured cruiser for this one too the information was less then limited....

Armstrong Export Design 483 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 131,06 (pp) x 24,08
Displacement: 14.950tons (standard)
Armour: unknown, probably 25mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 14.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 36km/h (19,5knots)
Armaments:
2x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Armstrong Mk J Cannons,
6x2 10"/45 (254mm/45) Armstrong Mk T Guns,
8x1 6"/45 (152mm/45) Armstrong Mk LL Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes
The paper showing the only available information:

https://imgur.com/Z2w8xy2

 

[Tzoli]

Design 248, described as a revised version of 229 with a novel feature of two armoured large rangefinder towers:

Vickers Export Design 248 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 149,35 (pp) x 23,93 x 7,31m
Displacement: 17.250tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: Unknown shp probably 20.000shp, Vertical Triple Expansion Engines, 2 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x2,2x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Jemiba]

Many thanks indeed for this work !
I especially like all those Lord Nelson spin-offs, ranging from what looks like pimped Majestics (with the funnels
side-by-side), to the last one, already reminding to the Dreadnought with its raised focsle. But it seems, a version with the
main armament standardised to, say 8 x 2 10" wasn't proposed, with the saved weight invested in more hp or better
armour ? Still looks like a lost opportunity to me.

 

[Tzoli]

Well these are my ideas as Friedman states very little if any about their layout, the single calibre 10" you thought and which was also a Lord Nelson preliminary (Design F) was not proposed, but the closest to it was Design 192.

 

[Tzoli]

Next is 249 a companion to 248 and thus a revised version of Design 230:

Vickers Export Design 249 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 149,35 (pp) x 23,93 x 7,31m
Displacement: 17.600tons (standard)
Armour: 25mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: 20.000shp, probably steam turbines, 2 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x2,2x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[COLDOWN]

Tzoli, I admire your work but I must make a couple of observations:
DESIGNS 758/758A: Were not offered to Argentina but to Chile. Page 109, BCTWWA, NF.
DESIGN 249 was 21k, not 19,5. "Design 249 was similar but slightly larger (17,600 tons), with more power (20,000 IHP) to ensure that she could make the desired 21 knots" Page 831, TBB, NF.
Although I admit that Friedman is my only source and you may have other information available.
Regards

 

[Tzoli]

I've fixed those, sometimes when copy pasting text I forgot to update a few lines
As for Design 758/758A:
758 was offered to Chile indeed but 758A was not clear as Friedman imminently states cruisers for Argentina after that design.

 

[COLDOWN]

Unfortunately Friedman has a very bad way of writing when the contents are for the filling or do not care much. It is not the only book that generates these doubts.
Regarding the belonging of designs to certain nations, it is important to note that Friedman tries to express a sentence for the separation of designs from Chile and Argentina: "Vickers also offered cruiser to Argentina´s rival Chile" (sic, no comma), but as we see, this is for the interpretation of the readers.

 

[Tzoli]

Yes he does and having the extra info on the back of he book requires you unnecessary paging to there and then find where you were left of!

 

[Tzoli]

But now the first Dreadnought based design (I assume)
Proposal 265:

Vickers Export Design 265 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 155,45 (pp) x 24,54 x 7,47m
Displacement: 19.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: 23.500shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Flying Sorcerer]

But now the first Dreadnought based design (I assume)
Proposal 265:

Vickers Export Design 265 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 155,45 (pp) x 24,54 x 7,47m
Displacement: 19.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: 23.500shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

Why the 12" and 10" guns? It must have made rangefinding and distinguishing the fall of shot rather difficult.

 

[Tzoli]

Because it was offered by Vickers and second at that time the transition to single calibre warships was not that common in all navies, and 10" could fire quicker then the 12", pounding the enemy while the 12" are reloading. Such reasoning was returned in 1911 when Armstrong offered a 4x2 16" 3x2 9,45" armed battleship to Brazil on 30.500tons!

 

[starviking]

Yes he does and having the extra info on the back of he book requires you unnecessary paging to there and then find where you were left of!

A pet peeve of mine.

 

[Tzoli]

Next is as suspected a modification of the previous proposal, Design 266, 5,5m shorter, 4x less 120mm guns and 1inch less belt armour

Vickers Export Design 266 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 149,96 (pp) x 24,23 x 7,54m
Displacement: 17.900tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229mm Belt
Engines: 23.500shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
20x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[COLDOWN]

Tzoli, I would like to ask you to prioritize the following:
_ Vickers 292 (1907).
_ Vickers 293 (1907).
_ Vickers 354 (1907).
_ Vickers 362 (1907).
_ Vickers 426 (1908).
- Armstrong 610 Variant III (1909).
_ Vickers 1124 (194 "8", same as 1124A with british equipment).
_ Vickers 1124A (194 "9").
If you can and you want, your diagrams will serve me to expose my proposal of Argentine technological tree for world of warships and would allow you to spread your works strongly in the Latinamerican community.
I hope so, Greetings

 

[Tzoli]

I will draw them when I get there.
As for 1124 and 1124A Friedman does not state any info on 1124 except it was developed from 1123 (Swiftsure class) while 1124A described as a Stock Cruiser not offered particularly to anybody but used as a basis.

I'm mostly somewhat partially known. I prefer naval forums to Wargaming forums where they all speak about what level this and that ship would fit in and not on the actual design itself.

 

[Tzoli]

Next is 282, the first in a series of pair-designs where even numbered ones were 12x 12" armed while uneven ones were 8x 12", 8x 10"

Vickers Export Design 282 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: 18.500tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: 23.500shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
6x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Next is the companion mixed artillery design of 282 the design 283:

Vickers Export Design 283 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
20x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Following with Design 286:

Vickers Export Design 286 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
6x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2, 16x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Following with Design 286B for which Friedman actually provides data for:

Vickers Export Design 286B for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: 157,28 (pp) 165,75 (wl) x 25,60 x 7,62m
Displacement: 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 254mm Belt
Engines: 26.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x3,4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2, 16x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

The designs still continue, this time my idea on the mixed armed counterpart of design 286:

Vickers Export Design 287 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
4x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
2x2,4x1 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
4x2 12x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Next is design 288 where I've chosen Echelon arrangement for the main armament:

Vickers Export Design 288 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
6x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
2x2, 20x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Next is Design 289 where I've modified the layout of design 287 a bit:

Vickers Export Design 289 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x2,4x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
4x2 12x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

Apart from the next design of 290 only 3 more drawings lest of this series.

Vickers Export Design 290 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x3, 3x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2, 16x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

And the sister design in my opinion to 290:

Vickers Export Design 291 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x3,1x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
4x2 12x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

The last even numbered in the series, where I've taken the Dreadnought / Bellerophon / St. Vincent layout as a base and replaced the aft turrets with triple ones:

Vickers Export Design 292 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x3, 3x2 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
24x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes

 

[Tzoli]

And the last in the current series of designs for Argentina, Design 293:

Vickers Export Design 293 for Argentina by Tzoli on DeviantArt

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The design had the following characteristics:
Dimensions: unknown probably 153,62 (pp) 162,25 (wl) x 24,38 x 7,62m
Displacement: unknown, around 20.000tons (standard)
Armour: unknown probably 38-42mm Deck, 229-254mm Belt
Engines: unknown around 21-24.000shp, steam turbines, 4 shafts
Speed: 39km/h (21knots)
Armaments:
2x3,2x1 12"/45 (305mm/45) Vickers Mk B Cannons,
4x2 10"/50 (254mm/50) Vickers Mk C Guns,
2x2 16x1 4,7"/50 (120mm/50) Vickers Mk A Guns,
4x1 457mm Underwater Torpedo Tubes