Area 51 Timeline

Unknown drone spotted around NTTR (11 years ago). Appears to be a three surface drone with strut bracing. Propulsion unit looks like two, possibly electric, motors driving propellers. The small wing area would result in high wing loading, leading me to think this is a relatively light airframe.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O17iZkliqZY

...really?

From a Youtube UFO channel with plenty of other fake videos?
Screenshot 2023-12-10 at 17-30-26 thirdphaseofmoon.jpg

Do we even have anything, besides the guy's word, to prove that the video comes from Groom Lake?
Or I can just make a funky drone with foam and a couple electric motors, fly it in my backyard with the camera pointed at the sky and claim that I've recorded a super secret drone flying out of Area 51?

This is the sources we are referencing and giving a platform to?
 
CiTrus90, Thank you! I did not look in to the source of the video. My mistake. I removed the content in light of the evidence from the source. The posts need to be grounded in the evidence available.
 
Aircraft /Area 51 First Flight
U-2 1955
A-12 1962
YF-12A 1963
M-21 1964
AQULINE 1965
YF-110B (MiG-21F-13) HAVE DOUGHNUT 1968
YF-113A (MiG-17F) HAVE DRILL 1969
YF-114C (MiG-17F) HAVE FERRY 1969
AQUILINE Mk.2 1970
YF-114D (MiG-17PF) HAVE GLIB 1972
YF-110B (MiG-21F-13) HAVE GLIB 1972
HAVE BLUE 1977
CONSTANT PEG 1977
SENIOR PROM 1978
YF-113E (MiG-23MS) HAVE PAD 1978
Su-22M HAVE UP 1978
SENIOR PEG Circa 1980
MiG-23ML HAVE LIGHTER 1980
MiG-23BN HAVE BOXER 1980
MiG-21MF HAVE COAT 1981
F-117A 1981
HAVE GLASS 1982
TACIT BLUE 1982
MiG-23UB HAVE FIREMAN 1983
HALSOL 1983
F.T. Birk Demonstrator 1983
Northrop "classified test bed" 1984
Lockheed "classified UAV" 1986
AGM-137 TSSAM 1990
YF-110E ?
YF-110L ?
YF-110M ?
YF-113H ?
YF-116A (MiG-29) HAVE LOAN 1991
YF-112C (Su-22M4) 1993
YF-112D (Su-22M4) 1993
Su-27P ?
Su-27UB ?
YF-113G 1995
Bird of Prey 1996
YF-24 Circa 1997
P-175 2005
RQ-170 2005
Stealth Helicopter Circa 2010
RQ-180 2010
YF-220 ?
X-273 ?
YF-45D 2018 - 2021?
NGAD Demonstrator 2020

Any evidence of the SENIOR PEG demonstrator having flown? A photo of the demonstrator (either real or mockup) has circulated extensively.
If youre including NGAD demonstrator you could include the NGAD technology demonstrator that Secretary Frank Kendall acknowledged not too long ago, if it makes sense to include it on the list.
 
There was supposed to be an aircraft that was designed to work in conjunction with TACIT BLUE. That aircraft companion aircraft, I believe, was the Northrop AP-2 Shark. However, I don't believe there is any evidence to suggest that it ever flew.
? TACIT BLUE was basically JSTARS but in a stealthy package to fly behind the front lines of battles, deep in the AA umbrellas.

It would then send the radar data out to other planes to engage the targets. Part of Assault Breaker, IIRC.

No dedicated companion aircraft.

As a side note, I strongly suspect that there will be a drone version of TACIT BLUE flying around to support 6th gen aircraft.


Sounds like Lockheed were planning on doing something like Project Suntan which used liquid hydrogen as its fuel and that also got cancled for exactly the same reasons as the classified aircraft. Quite why they would do something that used dangerous chemicals or fuels is beyond me.
You probably don't want to read the MSDS for the epoxy resins used in composite manufacturing, then.

Nasty chemicals is basically the price you pay for composites. (Hello, Methyl Ethyl Ketone and MEK Peroxide...)

As to fuels, sometimes you need the nasty chemicals to get the performance required. Rocket fuels in particular are known to be nasty. Even plain hydrogen is a deep cryogen and has some of the widest explosive limits known to man. Plus the stuff will migrate straight through solid steel...



I need to stop thinking that every craft flown at Groom Lake is a super-cool, super-secret stealth plane.
I dunno, I think a plane designed to fly for months is pretty cool.
 
If that is the case then why the secrecy around the YF-24? Being a captured foreign fighter just does not add up Ninja, so why has it not been revealed by now?
I don’t think that if the YF-24 turns out to be a foreign airframe that that’s in itself the reason to keep it secret. Why would they? I’m pretty sure the former owners know exactly where it ended up.

I think the main reason they would want to keep such an airframe secret is because of how they got hold of the airframe, and need to protect those who were involved in it’s capture. This is especially true if the USA got their hands on the plane by illegal means - i.e. stealing it.

If the above is true it there would be even more reason to keep it buried deep if the government who previously owned it is still in power. Most of the Russians FME programs were declassified fairly quickly after the USSR broke up - there was nobody left to object and complain.

The USA might have gotten it’s hands on some FME and it’s previous owners are still very angry about their loss.

Yes, I’m looking at you, China.
 
So the YF-24 could well be a FME instead of a brand new cutting edge fighter that I was thinking of.
 

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