Bruno Anthony
I miss the Cold War
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I get that but I would still love to see the test evaluation reports by both the contractor and the Navy or AF. Michell quoted 71% Sparrow success rate in tests. Down to ~10% in combat. That’s more than surprising.Any way to find the AIM-7 pre Vietnam War test firing results? I mean someone must have known this anti bomber missile might have a hard time against maneuvering fighters.
The books I’ve read on the air war over N. Vietnam all seem to say that it’s failures in air to air combat were surprising. I doubt that.
Only Marshall L. Michell in Clashes: Air Combat over North Vietnam questions the pre war kill probabilities testing of the missile.Sparrow testing would have been primarily done against targets simulating bombers not fighters, and certainly not fighters maneuvering with haste. Pre-Vietnam USAF (and Navy to a lesser extent) was concentrating on dropping nukes and shooting down bombers in that order, and dogfights were the last thing on anyone's mind.Any way to find the AIM-7 pre Vietnam War test firing results? I mean someone must have known this anti bomber missile might have a hard time against maneuvering fighters.
The books I’ve read on the air war over N. Vietnam all seem to say that it’s failures in air to air combat were surprising. I doubt that.
Only Marshall L. Michell in Clashes: Air Combat over North Vietnam questions the pre war kill probabilities testing of the missile.
Testing is typically also done by specialised units with vendor support on tap and everything in pristine condition. Additionally there would be no ROE requiring visual identification, allowing Sparrow launch within its best area of the envelope. Not really surprising there were differences in Vietnam.
By 1965 they knew that they wouldn’t be facing Badgers or Blinders over N. Vietnam. Yes a minor fighter threat but they had to know they were improperly armed for that. Even w/o Vietnam, the AF was sending Phantoms to front line overseas units who would be facing MIGS not Tupolevs. Was the plan to take BVR face shots?
Much to be done on researching these 1st/2nd gen air to air missiles. In my opinion they get a cursory overview.