TB2 have for some time been produced without the Wescam sensors, no? I read that Argos-II sensor has replaced them on more recent airframes.
I'm trying to find some data on CATS but the brochures are fairly slim. One mentions laser designator range up to 30 km, other says overall range of CATS up to 25 km.
Now those may be vague figures that understate real capabilities. Or they pertain to classification range, but not detection range. But if they're not - then Argos II beats those figures by a lot. I found a quite detailed article on Argos II showing both thermal and visual channel detection range, in good visibility conditions, against a pickup truck sized target to be 50 km.
Certainly, with a 40 cm inch diameter - the wescam, argos and CATS EO balls could, in theory where they reach same technology level one day, have similar capabilities as sensors inside Sniper targeting pods - as those feature same 40 cm diameter EO balls.
Bayraktar MIUS
TB2 is scoring huge propaganda success in Ukraine now, after the previous success in Nagorno Karabakh in 2020.All the footage we see coming out of Ukraine from it's use of TB2 are all hand shot 'leaked'. This leaves me to think that Turkey may have requested Ukraine to limit/play-down TB2 usage for continued support whilst limiting Russian backlash. Ukraine's media team could have done wonders using TB2 for propaganda.
TB2 is scoring huge propaganda success in Ukraine now, after the previous success in Nagorno Karabakh in 2020.All the footage we see coming out of Ukraine from it's use of TB2 are all hand shot 'leaked'. This leaves me to think that Turkey may have requested Ukraine to limit/play-down TB2 usage for continued support whilst limiting Russian backlash. Ukraine's media team could have done wonders using TB2 for propaganda.
Any signs of Russian backlash on the Turkey-Syria border?
"A larger and more agile fish entered the production line 3 and a half years later.
MIUS - Unmanned Fighter Aircraft:
It's on the way, stay tuned.."
View: https://twitter.com/Selcuk/status/1502606947295674369?s=20&t=7bKorod7DB5wpRD2COS8wQ
Name of this aircraft is Bayraktar Kızılelma (Red Apple)
In Turkic mythology. Red apple represents an ideal or a goal Turkic people strive to reach but the closer you get the further it runs away so in reality you will never reach it
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You can also see the TB-2 and Akinci production is at full tilt.
With the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, wont the supply of Ivchenko AI-25TLT engines be a problem ? Is there an alternative powerplant being considered for this project ?
I see that the internet has been going wild on that term. Reflex airfoils only means that the trailing edge part of the lower airfoil surface is hollowed (curved) upward to balance the pressure distribution. The Bf/Me109 is one of the typical aircraft having a reflex airfoil (hence its small elevator surfaces).Sailplane-ish thick, laminar-flow airfoils are pretty typical of MALE/HALE UAVs. A reflex airfoil would curve the the other way, BTW.
"A larger and more agile fish entered the production line 3 and a half years later.
MIUS - Unmanned Fighter Aircraft:
It's on the way, stay tuned.."
View: https://twitter.com/Selcuk/status/1502606947295674369?s=20&t=7bKorod7DB5wpRD2COS8wQ
Name of this aircraft is Bayraktar Kızılelma (Red Apple)
In Turkic mythology. Red apple represents an ideal or a goal Turkic people strive to reach but the closer you get the further it runs away so in reality you will never reach it
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You can also see the TB-2 and Akinci production is at full tilt.
"A larger and more agile fish entered the production line 3 and a half years later.
MIUS - Unmanned Fighter Aircraft:
It's on the way, stay tuned.."
View: https://twitter.com/Selcuk/status/1502606947295674369?s=20&t=7bKorod7DB5wpRD2COS8wQ
Name of this aircraft is Bayraktar Kızılelma (Red Apple)
In Turkic mythology. Red apple represents an ideal or a goal Turkic people strive to reach but the closer you get the further it runs away so in reality you will never reach it
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You can also see the TB-2 and Akinci production is at full tilt.
Well?!! That's a mock up only?
Or are you just determined not to give any credit where it’s due. Especially as I don’t think the idea that even conventionally powered drones can have a big impact in conflicts is not exactly a new idea and why there is such a strong market for them.Well, making the right prediction for all the wrong reasons is indicative of luck, not wisdom.
1) We're operating with a very incomplete picture that shows only what either side wants us to see. Ukrainian sources are understandably reluctant to give an accurate picture of any TB2 losses. Russia for its part is ceding the social media war almost entirely so as to not contradict the propaganda narrative of a limited special operation for its domestic audience. Consider wreckage access: TB2s destroyed on the ground are automatically on Ukrainian-controlled territory (and therefore unlikely to be publicized), as will a good chunk of any shoot-downs.
2) You operate on the implicit assumption that Russia is in fact a conventional foe. On paper that is certainly true and everybody expected it to operate like one, but the key surprise is that it is actually repeating many of the same mistakes made by forces that previously fared poorly against TB2s. Experts have been shocked by the low level of EW activity and Russia has still not established air superiority (US officials noted only yesterday that the VKS remains averse to operating over Ukraine proper). Coordination among ground forces has been disastrously bad, they regularly outran supply lines early on, nevermind SAM cover.
To conclude from the conflict to date that TB2s (or similar UAVs) can make a significant difference against a conventional foe is to disregard the elementary problem that Russia is not acting like such an adversary at all. Failing to account for the flawed premise is liable to lead one into drawing the wrong conclusions.