In favour of modernisation of french military to cope with Swiss and Soviet nuclear menaces.
Beware of the Swiss.
In favour of modernisation of french military to cope with Swiss and Soviet nuclear menaces.
Why didn't Alitalia buy the Boeing 2707? In OTL they were strongly committed to buying SSTs (It was the first international airline to preoder the Boeing 2707) and it would hart international prestige if Alitalia was the only major European national carrier not to have SSTs. (Here https://simpleflying.com/what-airlines-ordered-the-boeing-2707-americas-answer-to-concorde/ and here https://www.azfleet.info/boeing-2707)1978 was the introduction of the Boeing 2707, now a 2 mach SST with longer range and lower operations cost.
Only US Airlines with long distance flights buy a handful 2707, like Pan Am and Delta.
Foreign buyers were: Japanese Airline, Saudi Arabian Airlines and Gulf Air, In total Boeing build only 50 SST
Next post is the last of 1970s, foreshadowing the shape of thing to comeHow will the 1980s be covered with increased lunar exploration, manned Mars landings, and more militarization of space not to mention civilian space vehicles and applications?
To be honest i forgot themWhy didn't Alitalia buy the Boeing 2707? In OTL they were strongly committed to buying SSTs (
in Alternate History Forum version of TL Italy are the underdogs in Space programWill Italy still pursue an independent space program like in the previous version of TTL or not?
Nice for us(I'm Italian by the way).Italy is in TL different, since manage serious blow against Mafia in early 1970s
Italy can get close to the Eastern Bloc but it makes no sense to buy some Tu-144 and some Boeing 2707. Eastern and western avionics were and in some way are different, the Tu-144 has its controls in Russian and as you stated as the first 2707s started flying the Tu-144 suffered a fatal incident and was retired from civil service shortly after. Since at most Alitalia will order between 3 and 6 aircraft, one aircraft type is enough: the Boeing 2707.Also they try a Balance act between Superpowers i would not be surprised of one Tu-144 and a 2707 at Air Italia
have to adapt the TL anyhow do graphics issue this Weekend it will updated
Good to hear about that. Keep up the good work!But in this version it will be quite Different space program for Italy
there is a little hint in last post about ESRO
there will be a post what happen on 26 April 1986 in TLChernobyl as a push for Space Solar Power?
The Soviets Dominated World
East Germany flourish after failed putsch on Walter Ulbricht and removal of Erich Mielke and Erich Honecker in 1971.
Don't forget the Luftwaffe orbital nuke we also saw in the film.We need Germany to do better in space ITTL asap since IOTL Germany is lagging behind compared to other countries. Maybe starting with having their own launch vehicles then unmanned and manned mission.
For the fatherland.
Don't forget the Luftwaffe orbital nuke we also saw in the film.We need Germany to do better in space ITTL asap since IOTL Germany is lagging behind compared to other countries. Maybe starting with having their own launch vehicles then unmanned and manned mission.
For the fatherland.
I could not resistMETEOR as part of A Space Odyssey! I love it!
So what effect will the French program with the Soviet Union have on relation with the United States, Turkey in OTL was barred from buying the F-35 after they bought the S-300 from Russia, i see something like this happening with France.MARS
As President Glenn announce the ARES program, it was clear that for Manned Mars landing, more Mars probes were needed.
1981 arrived Viking 3&4 orbit around Mars, they had no lander, instead ground scanning sensors and high resolution cameras from Germany.
For two years they scann the surface for Ideal landing sites, on the end of the mission they were crash into Mars moon Phobos.
1983 Viking 5&6 had again lander but they were platform for Rovers build by German MBB using parts of Viking lander.
for 1985 was planned to send an special rover to mars and two communications satellite for manned missions
The Soviets also send probes to Mars, smaller compacter Marskhod rovers, Orbiter based on
Yupiter probes for scanning Mars Surface for landing site.
There Phobos mission ended in failure, as both approaching probes were eliminated by powerful electrostatic discharge.
from the moon Phobos.
in 1985 the European Mars orbiter Kepler, arrived follow by Chinese probe Yinghuo-1, it got busy around Mars
Jupiter got also visit after Pathfinder and Yupiter fly by, this time the US-german Gallieo and Yupiter 5 & 6,
The three orbiter made new discovery about Jupiter and 4 biggest moons.
Soviets focus their reconnaissance on Moon Europa for question is there life in ocean under the Ice shield ?
France Government made radical change in Spaceflight by joining the Soviet space efforts, abandoning their support for NASA Odyssey.
Understandable after issue they had with USA on restriction on Satellite launches, the cretin incident
and the CIA plot to assassinate the French President !
The first join venture was the Vesta mission a small french space probe fly with Marskhod mission to Mars,
Here it detach, made fly by into asteroid belt, here Vesta past several asteroids with biggest of them Vesta,
Follow by join venture Space probe to Venus and Halley Comet.
Also visit French the Soviets space stations as Cosmonauts under Interkosmo program.
A surprise was that India began to start Satellites into orbit, but analyst noted that is was efforts,
to gain needed technology for a MRBM that could hit China.
Hanks: Man this great, really great man !
Schmitt: I’m back Moon…
Young: can we get serious now?
coming up.Any illustration on how does the Mir space station look? I also remember that the Soviets already has lunar station in the 80's on the alternatehistory.com tl, are they moving slower here?
Diana program
In 1981 the program started literal with Lunar Orbital Space Station on a Saturn VC,
It’s was not the glorious white Saturn from Apollo program, but a dirty orange rocket covered in cheap isolation foam.
This was the industrial workhorse of NASA bringing heavy payloads into low earth orbit.
Here this MoonLab was welcome by a Space tug that prepared docking with fuelled Reusable Nuclear Shuttle-1 (RNS-1).
4 day later it brought LOSS into 80 km high polar lunar orbit and deploy it.
A month later return RNS-1 with Space Tug a Crew & Cargo Logistic Modul with 6 astronauts and Scientific Instrument Module (SIM).
The crew took over MoonLab and dock SIM at Station and start scientific mission to scann Lunar surface.
One of astonishing discovery was hydroxide on Lunar surface, confirming the findings of Apollo 21 mission !
Later they found Ice on both Lunar poles with help of new radar experiment on SIM
On return RNS-1 to earth orbit, was inspected by it service Tugs, who found a troublesome discovery, cracks in reactor core.
While Media hyped this „New Apollo 13“, NASA look into problem: the NERVA original design for 20 operation failed after 12.
The Crew was not in danger, a manned Space Tug (chemical) with additional propellant tanks could return them to a Space Shuttle.
NASA decided to launch RNS-2 into low orbit in hope it would perform better, while the service Tugs prepared the RNS-1 disposal.
The next Mission bought two Lunar tug, their docking system for MoonLab and two reserve propellant tanks.
Those tugs were docked on LOSS side ports by it robotic arms. follow arrival of its crew that increased
temporal the station crew to 12 astronauts.
One of first landing crew was eager to return to Moon is: Harrison Schmitt the first geologist who walk on Moon.
The other is John Young, Pilot of Gemini, Apollo CSM, Lunar module, Space Shuttle and now Lunar Tug
both and rookie astronaut Tom Hanks were first Americans to land on Moon since Apollo 21.
Hanks: Man this great, really great man !
Schmitt: I’m back Moon…
Young: can we get serious now?
MoonLab operated for nearly 15 years in Lunar Orbit with 30 lunar landings making many discovery,
With allot problems and near disasters, Like Solar Flairs, micro meteoroid impact on Station,
Abort landing attempts, issue with Lunar dust and Accidents during Lunar EVA.
In 1996 the Station was de-orbit and crash into Lunar crater, its replacement was the US Base Robert Peary on Lunar South Pole.
Back In 1981 in Los Alamos AEC checkt their NERVA engines, if there were any constructions errors in Design.
There was dispute because AEC demanded that RNS-1 engine is return to Earth with Shuttle for evaluation,
what NASA right out refused !
But it was clear for NASA that somehow that engine must be evaluated and that on ground by AEC.
At Marshal Space Flight Center had someone the Solution, using a Boilerplate article from Mars Exploration Module.
Equip with Lead container and parachutes, so started one of the most expensive salvage operation in History.
in 1982 a Saturn VC launched Salvage One into Rendezvous Orbit towards RNS-1
At RNS-1 the two inspection Tugs began complex task to disconnect Nerva Engine and insert into Salvage One
Biggest problem was to cut off the nozzle from engine so it fit into container and seal it.
Then Salvage One began its return to Earth, it landing target was the Johnson Atoll in middle of Pacific.
It splash down save, surrounded by US Navy Taskforce and brought to Johnson „Plutonium Yard“
The disappointing Result: it was not engine design errors, it was the material the reactor was build.
That Graphite UC-ZrC Alloy in space, suffer more of hydrogen corrosion and radioactive isotope contamination as expected.
The Reactor In Flight Test 1&2 had only 3 and 4 Ignitions, What NASA and AEC consider as qualification and declare RIFT-2 to RNS-1
But after 12 ignitions the Reactor core was so weaken by hydrogen corrosion and crack under thermal stress during cool down.
While NASA and ACE blame each other for the fiasco, the Scientist in Los Alamos start working on Problem.
For moment the current generation of NERVA engine are limited to 12 ignitions, then disposed in space.
Under current situation it was consider the engines were unsafe for Manned Mars Mission…
Illustration
Original sketch for MoonLab
For moment is the better way to explore the moon fully from a Orbital station with landing on selected sitesLooks like the realistic version of Jamestown from the For All Mankind TV series.
Armament of free World
Then start Swiss constructions works in Alps, the USA monitoring those with Spy sat and USAF Space Shuttle flights.
The 1988 US Presidential Election The Reign of Democrats ended after 12 years, Under President Glenn 1976-84 and President Udall 1984-88, were time of economic recovery of USA. Mostly by financial input in US Aerospace industry under NASA odyssey program and armament of US military with new weapon systems, kickstarting the US economy. While Glenn Presidency was marked by Operation Eagle Claw, the GLADIO-CONTRA scandal and decision to go to Moon and Mars. Was Udall Presidency one of funniest in US History and was highly popular, all the more surprising that Udall declined as candidate for 1988 president elections ! There were allot of speculation why, but after Udall death in 1998, it became public that he had Parkinson’s disease and it condition worsen in 1988. So his Vice President Gary Hart was nominated as candidate with Lloyd Bentsen for vice president. But they faced a Strong duo from Republicans: George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole. Bush was US representative from 1963 to 1969, then NASA Administrator for 1969-1977, who return to politic were, Then serve as Chairman of the Republican National Committee. He represent the progressive republicanism, Dole is US Senator for Kansas, know for his hard line conservative republicanism, know for his sarcastic one-liners comments. The selection was compromise between conservatives under Ronald Reagan and Progressives under Richard Nixon. And there was Lyndon H. LaRouche jr. a Independent candidate for National Democratic Policy Committee (unrelated to US Democratic Party) LaRouche made headline news with bold proposal to Colonised Planet Mars with Help of NASA and incorporated the Mars territory as new state in USA. Also install orbital defence system what he called „the Strategic Defense Initiative“ and gain allot of popularity for his proposal. But the 1988 Campaign was marked by scandals The first was Vice President Hart downfall as Miami Herald publish article claimed he is womaniser and had affairs. Gary Hart declare not running no more for President, The democrat party try to compensate to make Lloyd Bentsen main- and Michael Dukakis as Vice candidate. The Democratic campaign suffer of constant changes in Campaign management, like Dukakis was force to fire Donna Brazile do unethical wheeling against Bush/Dole. That George W. Bush was part of Ares-1 crew was controversial, since he was son of President candidate Bush, The Democrats accused NASA to support Bush sr. despite jr. was selected years ago for mission. In October the FBI arrested LaRouche jr. for credit card fraud and obstruction of Justice, middle during his Campaign in West Virginia What let to wild speculation in Media, special as LaRouche claimed he was victim of Political vendetta, he was sentence to 15 years of Prison. In the end won George H.W. Bush, and Bob Dole, both in popular (53%.37%) and Electoral votes (426) People wanted a change in Politic after Democratic rule of 12 years. NASA realised there former Administrator became President! |