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    Alternative history powerplants

    The real killer engine here is the RB.106, and I think the biggest powerplant mistake (with the Orenda Iroquois second) since it was being designed as a drop in replacement for the Avon. That should put it at about a length of 126 in (3,200 mm), a diameter of 35.7 in (907 mm) and a weight of...
  2. S

    MOTS Phantom for the RN?

    If the RN buy goes away due to not having carriers anymore, that drops the total UK buy. As you note in point 2, that's 140 fewer airframes. Eh, that'd be a really hard sell, IMO. Especially in the late 1950s. I agree that it'd be a viable POD in terms of end result. But it's really, really...
  3. SSgtC

    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    What about something like a J52-P-6A? 8,500 pounds dry, with an afterburner, that should get it up to about 12-13,000 pounds. Figure roughly Mach 1.5 performance. That should make Congress (and the military) feel a little better about selling to them. Particularly since that's well below what...
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    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    And that's a truly excellent question, since the SMB-2 and Mirage III-01 were contemporary of the Etendard IV (1956, 1956 and 1956, all three of them - hell of a year, Tonton Marcel !). With all three aircraft having the exact same engine, minus a big difference. SMB-2 & Mirage III-01 had the...
  5. BlackBat242

    A-4 Skyhawk bring back the concept for the 21st century

    I first did this back in 1978-80, when I was in High School. It originated as a modified carrier-capable G91, but it ended up as a M1.5 A-4. I spent some time working the drawings over in the mid-2000s, but never finished it. It was to be designed & built in Australia for Melbourne (Sydney was...
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    Three generations of Northrop naval fighters?

    ...available. ---------- Earlier F-20 with no Hornet is also a rather interesting scenario. My bet for the single engine would be - afterburning J52 if done in the early 1960's - J101 later - it was the direct ancestor of the F404 --------- Uncle Sam truly had an enormous glut of supersonic...
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    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    I am trying to remember the info on the Etendard with the spey and blown flaps...
  8. P

    Planned UK carrier order of battle 1975

    If you don't mind me saying zen, to have the A-4 Skyhawk supersonic would undoubtedly require an afterburning engine to replace the reasonable fuel-efficient J52/J65 engine. A thinner wing (which might cause issue with main landing gear storage), an air-to-air centric radar (and it's associated...
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    USAF/USN 6th Gen Fighters - F/A-XX, F-X, NGAD, PCA, ASFS News & Analysis

    I mean, you could dial the engine back to a longer term survivable power level and only cruise at Mach 1.5 or whatever. Wonder if a non-afterburning F404 would do the job? Yes, but it's harder to show those lifetime savings to the people paying for the aircraft.
  10. 1635yankee

    Alternative fighter for Argentine AF & Navy during Falklands war.

    ...F8U Crusader, and the F4F Phantom II. The Tiger was never exported, but it could have been. A better engine would have been nice (afterburning J52?). The Crusader was barely exported (France and the Philippines), but also could have been, although both it and the F11F were getting long in...
  11. Tailspin Turtle

    Pratt & Whitney J58 (JT11D-20)

    The difference between odd and even engine designations was done in order to somewhat delink the coordination required of the Air Force and Navy. However, this was in no way (or at least only in a limited way if the production supply did not meet the demand, which may be why the F3H-2 was...
  12. Deino

    Engines under consideration for the early Sabre II / Super-7 !!

    I think You are right, as the important sentence is here: Even if it seems to be the same text, there are some additions which seem to be omitted in my version ! http://airkiller.diy.myrice.com/pla/fc1.htm ... and maybe a slightly different version...
  13. J

    USAF/USN 6th Gen Fighters - F/A-XX, F-X, NGAD, PCA, ASFS News & Analysis

    Well I certainly think the CCAs won't have augmented engines at any rate. One thing about the Hound Dog is that it was a pure turbojet, which is generally going to be less efficient. Second thing is that it was a version of the engine designed to operate at emergency power full time since its...
  14. SSgtC

    Planned UK carrier order of battle 1975

    Going from memory here, but I'm pretty sure that the Skyhawk was not area ruled either, so getting it to go supersonic may also require a redesign of the fuselage. Which would definitely make the project more trouble than it's worth given the absolute embarrassment of riches the United States...
  15. TinWing

    TAM GE-31, Tblisi's non-Russian Sukhoi Su-25? Which potential Western engine?

    https://www.facebook.com/Scramblemagazine/posts/the-tbilisi-aviation-plant-tbilaviamisheni-tam-in-georgia-is-working-to-create-a/2096653470361176/ "Scramble Magazine February 14, 2018 · The Tbilisi Aviation Plant (Tbilaviamisheni - TAM) in Georgia is working to create a modernized version of...
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    An alternate F-11 Tiger

    it would be nice to have two manufacturers producing engines of nearly identical size and peformance like the UK with the Avon and Sapphire.. I have mainly been thinking about non A/B units with higher outputs to make them as cheap to operate as possible: Better SFC at max speed. Like the J-52...
  17. P

    Planned UK carrier order of battle 1975

    Yes, good and valid point about the Area Ruling issue SsgtC, something I completely overlooked. Regards Pioneer
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    USAF/USN 6th Gen Fighters - F/A-XX, F-X, NGAD, PCA, ASFS News & Analysis

    ...the job. Not sure how much money will be saved by sacrificing supercruise. I mean, the AGM-28 supercruised at Mach 2.1 with a non-afterburning J52... That said, I do see probably 3 different CCA types flying: One is a pure A2A type, small and probably the dumbest of the CCA types with...
  19. Lascaris

    Three generations of Northrop naval fighters?

    The Colossus class ships already sold around the world are an asset here IMO not a liability. Multiple potential export customers who may well end up buying the land based variants as well or in the case of Canada, Holland and Spain buy more of them. As a matter of fact I wonder whether a naval...
  20. S

    A-4 Skyhawk bring back the concept for the 21st century

    Who? Let's call it all of the Global South for who is using it. They can afford maybe 24-36 of these for their entire air force. Versus? Mostly against their neighbors, maybe having to deal with a well funded Chinese-supplied opponent (still their neighbors, but a generation newer hardware)...
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