US Navy 6th Gen Fighter - F/A-XX

[NMaude]

Raw kinematics have been deprioritized over time in favor of superior situational awareness through sensor fusion, and I think this trend will continue with next-gen manned aircraft (but maybe not so for CCAs).

Not to mention the massive technology improvement of long-range AAMs to the point where most air-to-air engagements are BVR meaning super-manouvreability is no longer important.

 

[mokahete]

Not to mention the massive technology improvement of long-range AAMs to the point where most air-to-air engagements are BVR meaning super-manouvreability is no longer important.

Good luck getting a radar lock on f35 at bvr ranges.
Not to mention 6th gen which are expected to be even stealtheir( though mostly in L and VhF band).
EW has also improved a lot too, so getting a lock on at longer ranges is hard even if missile posses the range.

 

[Scott Kenny]

Potentially. Might also be the end of the fighter bases stand off jammer in USN service. If the CCA can penetrate further and is attritable then a less powerful.jammer can have the same effect.

I'm pretty sure we are close to the end of life of stand-off jamming once LO aircraft are standard.

Though a useful jammer CCA may still be pretty big since the usual Growler mission load has it packing a couple of JSOWs and/or AARGM-ERs for pop-up threats.

I'm not aware of a single US naval fighter that has a 9G requirement: F-35C and Super Hornet are both capped at 7.5, and AFAIK the Tomcat was too. Raw kinematics have been deprioritized over time in favor of superior situational awareness through sensor fusion, and I think this trend will continue with next-gen manned aircraft (but maybe not so for CCAs).

And only having a 7.5g requirement helps with empty weight.

Not to mention the massive technology improvement of long-range AAMs to the point where most air-to-air engagements are BVR meaning super-manouvreability is no longer important.

Disagree, I don't think you're going to get a radar lock on an F-35 at BVR ranges. Nevermind how close you'd have to get to an F-22 to get a radar lock.

 

[Avimimus]

And only having a 7.5g requirement helps with empty weight.

I suppose that, with BVR fights involving multiple sustained turns, it may be easier on the pilot and just as effective in eating enemy energy even with 1.5 gee less.

That said, I recall a statement that the PAK-FA was expected to have sustained supersonic manoeuvrability to help defeat at BVR (especially SAMs)... but I suppose this is more a matter of other aspects of kinematics such as T/W ratio (in the context of L/D), rather than absolute max gee?