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Hi,
here is some new Messerchmitt project drawings,except only for P.1108/I,from LA FANA June magazine of 2010;
1- P.1092-XVIII/45
2- P.1092-XVIII/45-2
3- P.1092C
4- P.1101-V
5- P.1108/I
6- P.1108/II
7- P.1106 new design
8- P.1106-V
here is some new Messerchmitt project drawings,except only for P.1108/I,from LA FANA June magazine of 2010;
1- P.1092-XVIII/45
2- P.1092-XVIII/45-2
3- P.1092C
4- P.1101-V
5- P.1108/I
6- P.1108/II
7- P.1106 new design
8- P.1106-V
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From Ebert/Kaiser/Peters "Willy Messerschmitt. Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues":
Intended for a flight around the world, the Bf 164 was ordered by the RLM in 1935, but
cancelled around 1937. No data seem to have survived, the order and the designation
could only be found in some RLM lists. Perhaps some design points were used
later for the Me 261 and 264, but maybe it contained elements of the M 34, too.
Intended for a flight around the world, the Bf 164 was ordered by the RLM in 1935, but
cancelled around 1937. No data seem to have survived, the order and the designation
could only be found in some RLM lists. Perhaps some design points were used
later for the Me 261 and 264, but maybe it contained elements of the M 34, too.
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I wonder if the Me-509 would have the same CG issues as the P-39 (and the Yak-9B for that matter).
So, this jet powered Me-410?
My suspicion is that the original drawing showed alternative configurations with either one engine or two engines - then someone redrew it with all three engines depicted.
That said - anyone know the what or whys of this? Increased climb rate? Engine testbed?
blackkite said:
So, this jet powered Me-410?
My suspicion is that the original drawing showed alternative configurations with either one engine or two engines - then someone redrew it with all three engines depicted.
That said - anyone know the what or whys of this? Increased climb rate? Engine testbed?
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Thanks a lot. Super!! 
Wiki says that
"Further development of the Hs 130 as a reconnaissance aircraft continued with the Hs 130D, which was planned to have DB 605 engines and a complex two-stage supercharger, but was again unbuilt."
DB624 had very complex three stage supercharger. Wiki for Hs130 need some modification...?
Hs 130
http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/henschel-hs-130.20247/
Wiki says that
"Further development of the Hs 130 as a reconnaissance aircraft continued with the Hs 130D, which was planned to have DB 605 engines and a complex two-stage supercharger, but was again unbuilt."
DB624 had very complex three stage supercharger. Wiki for Hs130 need some modification...?
Hs 130
http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/henschel-hs-130.20247/
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Interesting. I've put in my bid!
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Two sets... grp2 and grp3. My initial bids are as high as I'm going to go, and I'll be on the road when the auctions end. Feel free to jump on them yourself if you wish.
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Rail-launched Me 163 experiments...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YDQVfx0zHw
There were apparently plans to create Me 163-carrying trains that could travel around Germany and launch them from straight sections of standard gauge railway track - sort of mobile response units. Anyone ever read that anywhere in a book? I can't tell whether it's new/interesting or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YDQVfx0zHw
There were apparently plans to create Me 163-carrying trains that could travel around Germany and launch them from straight sections of standard gauge railway track - sort of mobile response units. Anyone ever read that anywhere in a book? I can't tell whether it's new/interesting or not.
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It's very interesting indeed, many thanks for posting it !
At first glanece, I had the feeling, that it was a subscale model, but that was confuted
by a rough comparison of gauge and span. It may have been a full wooden scale mock-up,
of obviously quite weak construction, as during the first shown failure probably just the
aerodnamical forces seem to have ripped off the wings.
Using railway tracks as runways really may have eased stowage and the first part of a
combat sortie, but not really the second (landing).
newsdeskdan said:
It's very interesting indeed, many thanks for posting it !
At first glanece, I had the feeling, that it was a subscale model, but that was confuted
by a rough comparison of gauge and span. It may have been a full wooden scale mock-up,
of obviously quite weak construction, as during the first shown failure probably just the
aerodnamical forces seem to have ripped off the wings.
Using railway tracks as runways really may have eased stowage and the first part of a
combat sortie, but not really the second (landing).
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Thanks Justo - do those sources detail the train that was going to carry the Me 163s, fuel load, pilot and crew accommodation, operating procedures, why the project failed etc. as well?
Sorry, drawings only :-\
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Ah, I should probably write up what I've discovered at some point then!
I will be delighted to learn a bit more about the subject.
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In my files,
and after the Messerschmitt Me.263 appeared,it followed by anther two unknown rocket fighter design Projects (homeland defenders),all cancelled in early 1945,due to focus on production Me.262 & He.162.
and after the Messerschmitt Me.263 appeared,it followed by anther two unknown rocket fighter design Projects (homeland defenders),all cancelled in early 1945,due to focus on production Me.262 & He.162.
Hi
More infos about the Me-163 "STARTZUG" train.
A complete train : a locomotive, tankcars, flatcars, aircraft transport cars, workshop cars, storage cars, cars for takeoff, sleeping cars and admistrative cars.
The train should use the tracks of the Reichsbahn.
Each train should carry six Me-163.
The idea was from Hans Antz.
Source
https://books.google.com/
SNIPPET VIEW
Top secret bird: the Luftwaffe's Me-163 COMET by Wolfgang Späte
More infos about the Me-163 "STARTZUG" train.
A complete train : a locomotive, tankcars, flatcars, aircraft transport cars, workshop cars, storage cars, cars for takeoff, sleeping cars and admistrative cars.
The train should use the tracks of the Reichsbahn.
Each train should carry six Me-163.
The idea was from Hans Antz.
Source
https://books.google.com/
SNIPPET VIEW
Top secret bird: the Luftwaffe's Me-163 COMET by Wolfgang Späte
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