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Cheers Deltafan -- great stuff on the D.800 series. Any images in LES AVIONS DEWOITINE?
A few details of Programme Technique A20 and a list of candidates from
http://forums-fr.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/426102813/m/3891014553/p/11
The 1937 Programme Technique A20 was for a multi-place bomber (B5 five member crew) to replace the Farman 222. The new aircraft was to be able to deliver 1,800kg of bombs at 1200 km distance or 3,600kg to 700 km, at a speed of 450 km/h at 4,000m altitude. The A20 program required an aircraft capable of taking off with full load, clearing an obstacle 8m high in 600m.
In 1938, required cruising speed was increased to 470 km/h. Manufacturers answering the A20 competition were:
- Amiot 390
- Bloch 162 and 163
- Bréguet 482
- Couzinet AC-20 and AC-21
- Dewoitine D-800
- SNCAC NC-110
- Potez 660
- SNCAO CAO-700 and CAO-710
Does anyone have any more information about any of these designs? The Bre-482 and CAO-700 are fairly well-known but the Amiot 390 and Bloch 163 are completely new to me.
An image of the wind-tunnel model of the Couzinet AC-20 is attached. This is a composite of two images from http://perso.orange.fr/aircollection/couzinet.htm .
TheNC-110 NC-140 "was intended to employ the wings, tail surfaces and undercarriage of the NC 223.3 bomber and NC 223.4 mailplane, a similar arrangement of four Hispano-Suiza 12Y engines paired in two nacelles, and a new circular section pressurized fuselage but detail design was shelved in favour of a smaller bomber, the NC 150..."
source: p152 William Green Warplanes of the Second World War, Vol 7, Doubleday, 1967.
A melage of NC-150 and NC-223 is fairly easy to envision. Does anyone have access to AFM n°05 (Août/Septembre 2005)?
The attached EADS image purports to show the Potez 661 (Renault 6Q-02/03) but looking more like the Potez 662 with Gnôme-Rhône 14Ms. As asked on this forum by Nick Sumner (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,774.0.html), can we assume that the Potez 660 used the same 22.5m span, 64m2 area wings as those two civil prototypes?
A few details of Programme Technique A20 and a list of candidates from
http://forums-fr.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/426102813/m/3891014553/p/11
The 1937 Programme Technique A20 was for a multi-place bomber (B5 five member crew) to replace the Farman 222. The new aircraft was to be able to deliver 1,800kg of bombs at 1200 km distance or 3,600kg to 700 km, at a speed of 450 km/h at 4,000m altitude. The A20 program required an aircraft capable of taking off with full load, clearing an obstacle 8m high in 600m.
In 1938, required cruising speed was increased to 470 km/h. Manufacturers answering the A20 competition were:
- Amiot 390
- Bloch 162 and 163
- Bréguet 482
- Couzinet AC-20 and AC-21
- Dewoitine D-800
- SNCAC NC-110
- Potez 660
- SNCAO CAO-700 and CAO-710
Does anyone have any more information about any of these designs? The Bre-482 and CAO-700 are fairly well-known but the Amiot 390 and Bloch 163 are completely new to me.
An image of the wind-tunnel model of the Couzinet AC-20 is attached. This is a composite of two images from http://perso.orange.fr/aircollection/couzinet.htm .
The
source: p152 William Green Warplanes of the Second World War, Vol 7, Doubleday, 1967.
A melage of NC-150 and NC-223 is fairly easy to envision. Does anyone have access to AFM n°05 (Août/Septembre 2005)?
The attached EADS image purports to show the Potez 661 (Renault 6Q-02/03) but looking more like the Potez 662 with Gnôme-Rhône 14Ms. As asked on this forum by Nick Sumner (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,774.0.html), can we assume that the Potez 660 used the same 22.5m span, 64m2 area wings as those two civil prototypes?