IRINS Makran & Iranian forward base/helicopter carriers.

Archibald said:
Imagine if they tried landing their Tomcats on those ships... back to square one, 50 years later.

More seriously: helicopters + drones + commandos ships ? that's their goal ? One thing is sure: if they ever go into a shooting match with Israel or (god forbid) US Navy, those ships will last aproximately one minute and counting...
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F-14"Tomcat":Are you kidding?
 
Sineva said:
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20 degrees seems a little steep....admittedly it was for Harrier (then later F-35) but the RN and RAE Bedford experimented with different angles of ski jump and settled firmly on c12-12.5 degrees after starting out with 7 degrees (out of abundance of caution) on Invincible. They also trialled up to 20 degrees...
 
Something else is bugging me about that picture. What's happening in the top right corner? Wonky Photoshop? It seems like the deck edge has been erased and it just blends into the water for some reason.
 
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Tankers full of oil did prove surprising resistant to anti ship missiles back in the 80s (empty ones no so much, without the oil the hulls filled with water way to fast)

Also I seem to remember a story about a harrier landing on a tanker.
 
Cjc said:
Tankers full of oil did prove surprising resistant to anti ship missiles back in the 80s (empty ones no so much, without the oil the hulls filled with water way to fast)
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As long as you don't let the oil catch on fire, you're pretty good. And oil tankers fill their tanks with cooled flue gasses (diesel exhaust) to inert them.


Cjc said:
Also I seem to remember a story about a harrier landing on a tanker.
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Thought that was a container ship, but yes many modern cargo ships have lots of "acceptably-flat-for-emergencies" areas on the deck that make decent improv flight decks.
 
Sineva said:
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Look post #56
 
Cjc said:
Tankers full of oil did prove surprising resistant to anti ship missiles back in the 80s (empty ones no so much, without the oil the hulls filled with water way to fast)

Also I seem to remember a story about a harrier landing on a tanker.
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On a container carrier actually.

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Alraigo incident - Wikipedia

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Seems the whole contraption was designed by my uncle Joe "Lashup" It'llBeRite.
 
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Iran’s Bizarre 'Aircraft Carrier' Seen In New Detail

A converted commercial ship with an angled flight deck, the Shahid Bagheri looks strange but could fill a mission set that Iran has been developing for years. A converted commercial ship with an angled flight deck, the Shahid Bagheri looks strange but could fill a mission set that Iran has been...
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kaiserbill said:
That could simply be an illusion caused by the ramp angle and camera perspective.
Ski ramps often give that illusion.
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The overhead seems pretty clear. But it probably doesn't matter. They won't be doing bolters or touch-and-goes on that angled deck, it's just there to facilitate flying a CTOL drone into a barricade net.
 
INS Vikramaditya from above looks like the bow is skewed and the centreline swerves.
Not saying the Iranian isn't, simply that the ski ramp often plays tricks when imaged obliquely above.
 

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kaiserbill said:
That could simply be an illusion caused by the ramp angle and camera perspective.
Ski ramps often give that illusion.
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That's a shot from directly overhead.

The centerline of the ski jump is the fainter dashed white line inboard of the center of the landing stripe. The same ski jump centerline that meets the angled deck centerline.
 
Photos earlier on this thread seem to indicate more straight through symmetry.
I posted the above pic just (Vikramaditya) to demonstrate that taking the single more recent pic can lead to flawed conclusions. I would proceed with caution stating definitively that the ramp is not aligned.
Either way, I have no skin in this game.

The container ship PERARIN on which this is based has the following stats:
Built by Hyundai in 2000, it is a 42 000t dwt container vessel 240m long, 32m wide, powered by a 32 000 hp diesel with a max speed of 22 knots.

These stats are pretty generic for container vessels produced in great quantity since the 1970's.

I have always wondered when some naval force would avail of the multitude of these hulls and press them into service for some task after conversion.

My interest in this was piqued by Safmarines 260m twin diesel Big Whites fleet built in 70's in France.
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BIG WHITES CONTAINER SHIPS

Safmarine had eight of its newest dry cargo ships lengthened to carry a small number of containers. Now was the time for Saf...
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