Almaz-Antey S-400 Triumph / SA-21 Growler TABM/SAM

Spamming the SA-21 battery would ensure it wastes a lot of expensive interceptor missiles making it easier to destroy if there's a follow up HIMARS barrage.
 
NMaude said:
Spamming the SA-21 battery would ensure it wastes a lot of expensive interceptor missiles making it easier to destroy if there's a follow up HIMARS barrage.
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Or just being a right evil cheeky bastard and putting half an MLRS load spamming the battery and then sending the second half of that load a couple minutes later to get the battery.

Then having said MLRS unit(s) drive like hell because counterbattery fire is a witch.
 
An upgraded S-400 battery just got destroyed by an ATACAMs strike yesterday.

Russians claim five were used, but they are known for overclaiming. What video and pictures we have doesn’t seem to support that many as well.

Same Russian source claimed the entire crew survived, which seems extremely unlikely given the destruction of the command vehicle. They might have been being sarcastic or something, dunno.

Most interestingly it was using a deployed 96L6-Tsp radar, which they previously claimed has significant upgraded anti-ballistic capability and is also utilized as the radar for the S-350 and S-500 systems. This is the first time it has been confirmed destroyed.

In addition two TEL were completely destroyed, third was likely destroyed but at least heavily damaged and both the radar and command vehicle were destroyed as well.

It doesn’t seem like any of its current missiles are particularly effective vs ATACAMs.
 
We do not know the conditions of the engagement. It is possible other rockets and decoys were used. Ukraine is known to mix HIMARS and ADM-160s into their ATACM strikes.
 
Josh_TN said:
We do not know the conditions of the engagement. It is possible other rockets and decoys were used. Ukraine is known to mix HIMARS and ADM-160s into their ATACM strikes.
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We don’t know the exact conditions but the Russian milblogger who published photos is claiming five ATACAMS. It’s also clear it wasn’t a saturation attack as the TEL’s still had ammo left. MALD’s should not serve as effective decoys for ballistic missiles vs a modern AESA, though vs Russia, who knows.
 
NTKV said:
We don’t know the exact conditions but the Russian milblogger who published photos is claiming five ATACAMS. It’s also clear it wasn’t a saturation attack as the TEL’s still had ammo left. MALD’s should not serve as effective decoys for ballistic missiles vs a modern AESA, though vs Russia, who knows.
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Anything flying into occupied airspace is still a threat and target.
 
No doubt Turkey will be looking to very quietly sell its SA-21 batteries to Ukraine;).
 
NMaude said:
No doubt Turkey will be looking to very quietly sell its SA-21 batteries to Ukraine;).
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Wonder if the Indian's will be that upset if further deliveries are delayed....they might be able to cancel the contract...
 
According to one Ukrainian source, two ATACAMS were fired and one was shot down while the other was clearly very effective.

However, do you want to know the craziest thing?

The aftermath footage and destruction video seems like it might be from two different incidents based on geolocation, if accurate.

So probably two separate S400 batteries destroyed via ATACAMs over the last couple of days.
 
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Cluster munitions again proving their unreplaceable value. Two conclusions from this war - drones are now very important and cluster munitions are still important and need to be re-introduced to military procurement thinking. GPS-immunity or just use cluster munitions?
 
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Looks like jamming has not rendered GPS 'completely ineffective' after all. GL-SEAD has proved extremely effective during this conflict too.
 
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Forest Green said:
Looks like jamming has not rendered GPS 'completely ineffective' after all.
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Don't forget that there are a range of terminal-homing seekers available for the JDAM and SDB for example that will home in on anti-GPS jammers.
 

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