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Wingspan: 9.6 m
Length: 9.12 m
Height: 3.3 m
Wing area: 18.5 m2
Weight: 2200 kg (empty) 2600 kg (take off)
Engine Type: 1 x WM-K-14B
Power: 1 x 1030 hp
Maximum speed: 530 km/h
Take off speed: 130 km/h (without wing-flaps) 115 km/h (with 1/3 wing-flaps)
Range: 900 km
Service ceiling: 9800 m
Crew: 1
Armament: 2 x 12.7mm Gebauer machine guns in the fuselage, 2 x 7.92mm machine guns in the wings, 20kg of bombs
The XNI-2 Kaméleon (Kameleon) was a FAKE. It was an April's Fool joke in the 1970's "Repülés" magazine, the only picture that can be found was taken from a model. The american "eyewitness", Lt. R. Taylor, who wrote the "encounter" down in his journal wrote it with the date April 1st, 1945. Many other Hungarian sources prowed it to be a fake.
But let's put those aside and think logically. To build such a plane means that the Hungarians either had their own jet engine, or buyed one. There are no evidence of that, no picture of the jet engine, no datas, nothing. But let's say it was such a top secret project, that it isn't revealed even today, and no Allied or Soviet secret intelligence service could find anything, or after the Soviet Union "liberated" Hungary, they were so ashamed that the Hungarians had such top quality tech, when they did not, that they destroyed all evidence.
To build such plane, a major factory is needed. All of the factories of Hungary, which could produce such a plane were bombed in 1944, destroying many more prototypes, like the Tas tank, the RMI-1, etc. If an American pilot met with such a plane in 1945, it means that the prototype somehow survived the bombing raids. There are two explanaitons for that. Either the Hungarians had a top secret, under-surface base, which couldn't be found by secret intelligences, where they could build this plane, or moved the entire project out of the country. Why just that, and not all other prototype projects?
source: https://forum.warthunder.com/index....uild-it/page/39/&tab=comments#comment-3796681
The WM-23 Ezüst Nyíl (Silver Arrow) had the following, correct specifications.
Wingspan: 9.6 m
Length: 9.12 m
Height: 3.3 m
Wing area: 18.5 m2
Weight: 2200 kg (empty) 2600 kg (take off)
Engine Type: 1 x WM-K-14B
Power: 1 x 1030 hp
Maximum speed: 530 km/h
Take off speed: 130 km/h (without wing-flaps) 115 km/h (with 1/3 wing-flaps)
Range: 900 km
Service ceiling: 9800 m
Crew: 1
Armament: 2 x 12.7mm Gebauer machine guns in the fuselage, 2 x 7.92mm machine guns in the wings, 20kg of bombs
The XNI-2 Kaméleon (Kameleon) was a FAKE. It was an April's Fool joke in the 1970's "Repülés" magazine, the only picture that can be found was taken from a model. The american "eyewitness", Lt. R. Taylor, who wrote the "encounter" down in his journal wrote it with the date April 1st, 1945. Many other Hungarian sources prowed it to be a fake.
But let's put those aside and think logically. To build such a plane means that the Hungarians either had their own jet engine, or buyed one. There are no evidence of that, no picture of the jet engine, no datas, nothing. But let's say it was such a top secret project, that it isn't revealed even today, and no Allied or Soviet secret intelligence service could find anything, or after the Soviet Union "liberated" Hungary, they were so ashamed that the Hungarians had such top quality tech, when they did not, that they destroyed all evidence.
To build such plane, a major factory is needed. All of the factories of Hungary, which could produce such a plane were bombed in 1944, destroying many more prototypes, like the Tas tank, the RMI-1, etc. If an American pilot met with such a plane in 1945, it means that the prototype somehow survived the bombing raids. There are two explanaitons for that. Either the Hungarians had a top secret, under-surface base, which couldn't be found by secret intelligences, where they could build this plane, or moved the entire project out of the country. Why just that, and not all other prototype projects?
source: https://forum.warthunder.com/index....uild-it/page/39/&tab=comments#comment-3796681
