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here some Link and PDF about USA military outpost on Moon

Project Horizon (ABMA now MSFC at NASA)

http://www.astronautix.com/data/horizon.pdf
size 1.3 MB

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hortpost.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/propter1.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/propter2.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/propter3.htm

LUNEX (USAF)

http://www.astronautix.com/data/lunex.pdf
size 7 MB
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/lunex.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/lunition.htm

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hab the US NAVY and the US Marine Corps also Luna outpost plans ?
 
I just noticed that the link to the Project Horizon report PDF linked above is dead, so I'm not sure which one it connected to -- but it might not have been either as there are two I've found floating around, a summary report and a technical report (linked below). Both were released in 1959 after being developed from about mid-1956 as a way of establishing precedence over the US Air Force's and the Navy; the Air Force came up with Lunex, as mentioned, and while I've never found a Navy lunar base proposal I know for sure they worked a bit on a lander. In any case, by the Horizon was declassified and released in 1959 the Army was more concerned with getting a slice of the sweet, sweet government money that looked to be heading to the upstart NASA instead. There's a couple of breezy paragraphs in it that basically read as "NASA will do an initial manned landing and some orbital mapping, and then get out of the way of the Real Men who're gonna do the Real Work".

http://www.history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V1.pdf (16.9 mb)
http://www.history.army.mil/faq/horizon/Horizon_V2.pdf (33.5 mb)

(I just published the third of three parts describing the whole Project they proposed, from a huge launch complex on Christmas Island to an orbital station to a 12-man Moon base -- by the end of 1965! -- on my blog, which you're more than welcome to check out if you click on the web icon under my user name to the left there. It's all based on the Army PDFs I've linked above, though.)
 
Good reports! I made 3D model of construction vehicle (see below). But when I want to make second lunar surface transport vehicle I found that in copy of report Horison_V2 there is no page 54! It is terrible! There is must be Figure II-13 with illustration of that vehicle! Please help me to obtain that illustration.
 

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...You know, as much as we're finding out about LUNIX and the other military lunar base proposals, some garage kit company should be able to come up with a really decent 1:288 scale kit of a completed, active base. So far, the only one I can name off the top of my head is this particular gem:


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:) :OM:
 
Barrington Bond said:
Found something which looks like it :)
http://falsesteps.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/project-horizon-part-iii-landing-soldiers-on-the-moon-and-staying-there/
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And indeed that's my blog...well done to Barrington for beating me to it ;D The picture quoted above is Figure I-1, from page 11 of the first volume of the Horizon report.

Igor, I have checked my copy of volume II and either it is the same as the one you have, or they were both scanned from the same original that is missing page 53. In other words, no figure II-13, sorry.
 
OK. Thanks all.
I can show all my 3D models of vehicles for Horizon Project:
 

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U.S. ARMY MOON WEAPONS

Space Information Briefing Held at U.S. Army Weapons Command, 30 March 1966
"HIGH NOON ON THE MOON"
http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADA047426

"The Meanderings of a Weapon Oriented Mind When Applied in a Vacuum Such as on the Moon"
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=33691
 
I've seen a couple of references that there are 4 volumes to the Project Horizon document. Also, a reference that indicates volume 3 is still classified as secret.

All I've ever seen are volumes 1 and 2. Does anyone have any additional info on volumes 3 and 4?
 
thammondwis said:
I've seen a couple of references that there are 4 volumes to the Project Horizon document. Also, a reference that indicates volume 3 is still classified as secret.

All I've ever seen are volumes 1 and 2. Does anyone have any additional info on volumes 3 and 4?
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What you need is available from Apogee Books.
Project Horizon Phase 1 Report Volumes 1,2 & 4 Military Version

 
I've been trying to get the Air Force equivalent study(ies) declassified for years. USAF is taking a very slow time. And then every few years they ask if I am still interested or if they can cancel my request. I have no idea why they can't release 66-year-old studies.
 
blackstar said:
I've been trying to get the Air Force equivalent study(ies) declassified for years. USAF is taking a very slow time. And then every few years they ask if I am still interested or if they can cancel my request. I have no idea why they can't release 66-year-old studies.
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the ways of the lord are inscrutable..one day, they will surely do it.
 
blackstar said:
I've been trying to get the Air Force equivalent study(ies) declassified for years. USAF is taking a very slow time. And then every few years they ask if I am still interested or if they can cancel my request. I have no idea why they can't release 66-year-old studies.
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My initial suspicion, having worked on the flip side of that question, is that the Classification Authority at the proper level is just sitting on requests.
 
Scott Kenny said:
My initial suspicion, having worked on the flip side of that question, is that the Classification Authority at the proper level is just sitting on requests.
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Having dealt with FOIA offices for decades, they are often under-resourced. They don't have the people. And often the people they do have may have been given that duty because they're the new guy and nobody else wants to do it, and they may not have any training. So the requests pile up and don't get processed.

I am the person who obtained the first declassified photo of a satellite deployed from a classified space shuttle mission. The first USAF FOIA officer I dealt with at Los Angeles Air Force Base told me that NASA owned the space shuttle and my FOIA should have gone to NASA. I informed him (over the phone) that it was a USAF mission and they owned the mission and the payload. He still denied my request. I appealed it and surprisingly got the photos of the DSCS III deployment from STS-51J a few weeks later.
 
Scott Kenny said:
My initial suspicion, having worked on the flip side of that question, is that the Classification Authority at the proper level is just sitting on requests.
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Anything in terms of declassification you think might be one of the (few?) benefits of Trump's USG purge?
 
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blackstar said:
I've been trying to get the Air Force equivalent study(ies) declassified for years. USAF is taking a very slow time. And then every few years they ask if I am still interested or if they can cancel my request. I have no idea why they can't release 66-year-old studies.
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I will add that there were a number of late 1950s studies done for USAF on space weapons systems. It is difficult to keep track of them, because they had similar names and some of them may be duplicates. In addition, it appears that some contractor studies were USAF funded, but others may have been done by contractors using their own R&D funds. There was a USAF lunar base study. There was also apparently an orbital weapons system study (nukes in Earth orbit), and then the study(ies) that were part of/became the Orion nuclear propelled spacecraft, which in one iteration could fire nukes. I have published a bit on the lunar base study, which preceded the "LUNEX" study that is public.

When I filed a FOIA request for a bunch of these, USAF consolidated several of my requests because (I think) they determined that some of the things with different names were actually the same reports, such as one record entry being a chapter of a report and another record entry being the entire report. One of my requests was denied in full, meaning that the USAF office claimed that none of it was releasable. That's rather ridiculous for a 60+ year-old report, and I appealed. At least some of it should be releasable because it probably references then-current weapons like the Atlas rocket.

I've been waiting on this at least 7 years. But I'm a bit annoyed with myself because I could have filed a request back in the late 1990s, and there was probably a better chance then of obtaining some of that information because the declassification system worked a bit better then.
 
"Study Requirements" "SR. [number] There were indeed a whole lot of them floating around. Aerospace-plane (SR.89774) was just one among dozens.
 

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