Unknown Spacecraft Projects for Mars

[hesham]

Hi,


I can't ID this spacecraft project,which intended to reach Mars,L+K magazine 01/1971,
who can help ?.

 

[martinbayer]

Its Wernher von Braun's 1969 NASA manned Mars mission plan: http://www.exploremars.org/von-braun-answers-questions-about-mars

Martin

 

[hesham]

Thank you Martin.

 

[blackstar]

Started as a study done by (I think) Boeing for Langley, ca 1967. Got morphed into von Braun's concept by 1969. You can find some more about it in David Portree's monograph "Humans to Mars." Google that and you can find the pdf.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Blackstar,


and here is the drawings from site,which was mentioned by Martinbayer.

 

[FighterJock]

Already bookmarked the site mentioned above, I seem to remember reading a book back in the early 1980s that von braun planned to send astronauts to mars by 1986 after the Apollo moon landings were finished. I have never seen the hardware before now, thanks guy's.

 

[Michel Van]

the lander to be used on Von Braun 1969 version:

North American Rockwell Mars Excursion Module (MEM)
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14221.0.html
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11278.0.html

 

[blackstar]

Find Portree's monograph for more context. I have started writing about these studies. I have the big study that was done first. The spacecraft for that were huge, and would have required substantial new ground infrastructure (more Saturn launch pads, enhancements to the VAB, etc.). Von Braun's people then scaled it down. I want to understand how the von Braun version got scaled down. I got some information indicating that part of it was choosing a different orbit that reduced the fuel load. They also made some other choices that led to a smaller vehicle. But it still would have been massive.

What I have not found is any definitive report that details von Braun's version. There are slides and sections of other reports, but no 500-page engineering analysis, like exists for the earlier version. They obviously did the trades, but I cannot figure out if they never produced a final report or if they simply went to briefing slides.

 

[hesham]

the lander to be used on Von Braun 1969 version:

North American Rockwell Mars Excursion Module (MEM)
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14221.0.html
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11278.0.html

Thank you my dear Michel,


and I have a two books about Von Braun,may be they contain a more info,I'll see.

 

[blackstar]

You can find the Humans to Mars monograph here:

http://history.nasa.gov/monograph21.pdf

The relevant chapter is here:

http://history.nasa.gov/monograph21/Chapter%205.pdf

Also attached.

 

[hesham]

From Naval Aviation News 1960,

I can't ID this ?.

 

[wayne.mccormick]

You can find the Humans to Mars monograph here:

http://history.nasa.gov/monograph21.pdf

The relevant chapter is here:

http://history.nasa.gov/monograph21/Chapter%205.pdf

Also attached.

This is really cool. If you're still around, THANKS

 

[publiusr]

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Lunar paths

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