Udet-Flugzeugbau Projects

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Hi,

a well know German designer,Mr. Ernst Udet,who created a series of airplanes,
began with U-1 up to U-17.

U-3 was two-seat sporting aircraft Project,developed from U-2,powered by one Siemens Sh 4 engine.
U-9 was amphibian flying boat Project of 1925,powered by one 100 hp Siemens engine.

Also U-14,U-15,U-16 and U-17 Pinguin,who know more about them or has a drawings ?.

 
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Re: Ernest Udet Airplane Projects

You are referring to the well known ERNST Udet Flugzeugbau .

Enst Udet was an outstanding pilot , but not an aircraft designer ...

http://histaviation.com/udet.html
 
OK my dear Richard,

but what about the Udet-Flugzeugbau Projects ?.
 
hesham said:
U-3 was two-seat sporting aircraft Project,developed from U-2,powered by one Siemens Sh 4 engine.
U-9 was amphibian flying boat Project of 1925,powered by one 100 hp Siemens engine.
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Was there any drawings survivor to those Projects ?.
 
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Perhaps it would be better if this thread was re-named Udet-Flugzeugbau Projects or some such? As richard said in reply #2, "Ernst Udet was ... not an aircraft designer". He did, however, attach his name to other people's projects - eg the proposed Udet/Rumpler transatlantic aircraft.

BTW, a new member - Sotka (Olaf Bichel) - is the author of Die Flugzeuge der Udet Flugzeugbau GmbH. Doubtless he will have some insights into Udet Flugzeugbau projects ... hint, hint ;)

As has been well covered elsewhere, Ernst Udet lent his name to a company largely financed by the German-born American entrepreneur William Max Pohl. Pohl had made his money as President of a Milwaukee-based shoe-polish maker - Kepec Company. [1] Pohl was in Germany in 1921 to establish Kepec Chemische Fabrik GmbH in Bonn. He approached Udet directly and made it clear that the pilot was only lending his famous name to the enterprise.

According to Udet: A Man's Life by Hans Herlin (Macdonald, 1960, page 108), the shareholders in the new Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH were William Pohl, his brother Heinz Pohl, [2] Erich Scheuermann, and Hans Herrmann. The latter two were the engineers involved in the project.

Erich Scheuermann was named 'Technischer Leiter' - a somewhat overblown title considering that his Ramersdorf assembly shed had been dubbed "Scheuermann's chicken coop." [3] Udet regarded Scheuermann - another ex-military pilot - as a personal friend but Herrmann seems to have been the real designer. However, it is probably revealing that there is no mention at all of Hans Herrmann in Udet's Mein Fliegerleben autobiography.

According to Jean-Denis G.G. Lepage in Aircraft of the Luftwaffe, 1935-1945 (page 29), the Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH failed primarily "because of disagreements at management level". Udet himself had already moved on by 1925. Scheuermann followed in February 1926. At that point, Herrmann took over control of the Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH but the company failed in August 1926. [4]

The date of the firm's closing explains why the 1927 Udet Alpensegler single-seat glider doesn't seem to have a designation.

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[1] The firm had previously been Keiner & Pohl Company and, in 1944, would be renamed Kepec Chemical Corporation. Pohl returned to Europe after his 1925 marriage in Wisconsin. He was not back in US until 1939. Pohl also had at least one European licensee - Kepec Co. (England), Ltd.

[2] There is no mention of Heinz Pohl in the Wiki entry.

[3] Scheuermann claimed to be operating a bee hive and chicken coop factory during the Allied prohibition of German aircraft production which lasted until January 1923. The "Scheuermann's chicken coop" comment referred to this cover story.

[4] It should be mentioned, however, the Lepage also mistakenly lists William Pohl as an engineer. BTW, Hans Herrmann refers to the firm simply as "UdetFlugzeugen" in one of his papers.[/B]
 
Many thanks my dears Jemiba and Richard.
 

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I don't know if these are of interest to your search for information on Udet projects, Hesham, these pictures were taken at the Deutsches Technicmuseum in Berlin. This is the Udet U 10 two-seat monoplane.

Udet U 10

The U 12 Flamingo D 822, seen in the big photograph in the background was the aircraft in which Ernst Udet flew spectacular aerobatic routines around Germany, which in part helped financially rescue the ailing firm in selling the U 12. D 822 was on display in the Third Reich's aviation museum the Deutsches Luftfahrt Sammlung located next to the Lehrter Bahnhof, now the Berlin Hauptbahnhof, just across the Moltkebrucke from the Reichstag. In the picture below you can see a mock up of the museum built in Poland, with the U 12 being the red and silver biplane at bottom right numbered 112. The museum was tragically burned out during a night bombing raid on Berlin in 1943 and the majority of the aircraft within were destroyed (although a handful survive!). Needless to say, the RAF contingent was not allowed back to the museum.

DLS Udet

The picture of D 822 with surviving bits mounted against it. It did not survive the fire.

Udet U 12
 
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Perhaps it would be better if this thread was re-named Udet-Flugzeugbau Projects or some such? As richard said in reply #2, "Ernst Udet was ... not an aircraft designer". He did, however, attach his name to other people's projects - eg the proposed Udet/Rumpler transatlantic aircraft.
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Do you know more about this project ?
Thanks

Richard
 
Sorry, I don't. I had assumed it had something to do with Rumpler's twin-float Transozean Flugboot ... but don't know for sure.
 
Unfortunately,there is no projects in this book.
 

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I understand the above diorama represents the museum as it was pre-bombing. However in the lower right corner there is an anomalous looking helicopter. In fact it closely resembles a 1960s Cessna design. Can you tell me what that is?
 

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