Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH

[Apophenia]

Udet-Flugzeugbau GmbH, München-Ramersdorf

Famous WWI fighter ace and stunt pilot Ernst Udet lent his name to this company but the aircraft were designed by Ing. Hans Henry Herrmann. Udet left the firm in the spring 1925. In 1926 financially-strapped Udet-Flugzeugbau was converted into a into a joint-stock company by the Bavarian government. This new company was rebranded as the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (BFW).

Udet-Flugzeugbau 'U' Designations

Udet U 1 - 1922 single-seat low-wing light a/c, x 1
- U 1: 1 x 30/32 hp Haacke HFM 2 HO2, span 8.90 m
-- http://www.histaviation.com/Udet_U_1.html
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1922/1922%20-%200393.html
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1922/1922%20-%200394.html
-- 3v: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/law1/u1/u1-1.gif

Udet U 2 - 1923 2-seat low-wing light a/c, x 4*
- U 2: 1 x 35 hp Haacke HFM 2 HO2, span 8.90 m
-- U 2 basically a 2-seat version of the U 2
-- * German Aviation 1919-1945 lists 9 x reg.
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u2.html
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200122.html

Udet U 3 - 192? single-seat low-wing light a/c, x 1*
- U 3: 1 x Siemens Sh 4 5-cyl radial, span ?? m
-- * D-203, poss. a U 4 rebuilt as single-seater**
-- ** Other sources say U3 remained unbuilt project
-- http://www.histarmar.com.ar/AVIACION/SAEAvCivil/38.jpg (right)

Udet U 4 - 1923 2-seat low-wing light a/c, x
- U 4: 1 x Siemens Sh 4 5-cyl radial, span ?? m
-- More powerful development of the Udet U 2
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u3.html

Udet U 5 - 1923 3-seat parasol cabin monoplane
- U 5: 1 x 70 hp Siemens Sh 6, span 12.00 m
-- http://www.histaviation.com/images/wwb_img7239.jpg
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200709.html
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200710.html

Udet U 6 - 1923 2-seat* low-wing light a/c, x 3
- U 6: 1 x 55/60 hp Siemens Halske Sh 4 5-cyl, span 9.60 m
-- * At least one U 6 mod. as single-seater
-- The 3 x U 6 built were D-487, D-325, and D-330
-- http://histaviation.com/Udet_U-6.html

Udet U 7 - 1924 'Kolibri' single-seat parasol light a/c
- U 7: 1 x 17 hp Douglas or 30 hp ABC Scorpion HO2
-- * Alternative was 1 x 35 hp (750 cc) Douglas
-- U 7: Wood constr., ply-covered fuselage, aka Udet U.VII
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u7.html
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1924/1924%20-%200467.html
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1925/1925%20-%200325.html

Udet U 8 - 1924 'Limousine' parasol-wing cabin monoplane
- U 8: 1 x 100 hp Siemens or Bristol Lucifer, span 12.00 m
-- https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1925/1925%20-%200326.html
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923%20-%200710.html

Udet U 9 - [Project] 1925 amphibious flying boat
- U 9: 1 x 100 hp Siemens-Halske Sh 11 7-cyl. radial

Udet U 10 - 1924 2-seat light sport monoplane, x 10
- U 10 : 1 x 60 hp Siemens & Halske Sh 4, span 10.60 m
- U 10a: Float vers., 1 x 80 hp Siemens & Halske Sh 11
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1925/1925%20-%200325.html

Udet U 11 - 1925 'Kondor' 3+8 transport a/c, span 22 m
- U 11: High-wing monoplane, 4 x 100 hp Sh 12 pushers
-- Metal fuselage, wooden wings, open cockpits, x 1
-- Operated by Aero Lloyd (DLH), c/n 243, D-828
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u11.html

Udet U 12 'Flamingo' - 1925 2-seat biplane trainer, span 10 m
- U 12a: Basic trainer, 1 x 80 hp Siemens-Halske Sh 11
- U 12a Spezial (Special): Aerobatic vers.
- U 12b: Aerobatic vers., bench-type tabs above ailerons
- U 12b Spezial (Special) Siemens-Halske Sh 12
-- http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/MasonDavid/4385.htm
- U 12c: Advanced trainer vers., reduced wing area
- U 12d: Aerobatic vers. with Siemens-Halske Sh 12 radial
- U 12e: Advanced trainer vers. with Siemens-Halske Sh 12
- U 12H: Austrian Fliegerwerft Thalerhof-built U 12a*
-- * Standard U 12a, U 12H designation for Holz (Wood)
- U 12S: Fliegerwerft Thalerhof vers., revised constr.**
-- ** Steel-tube fuselage constr., U 12S for Stahl (Steel)
-- U 12S aka U 12Ö for Österreich (Austria)
- U 12W: (Wasser) Twin float vers., Sh 12 engine
- Hungária series: KRG/Manfred Weiss-built vers. of U 12a
-- Hungária I, 'II, 'III, 'IV, and Hungária V variants
- Latvian prod'n, 10 x U 12b by A.S. Christine Backman*
-- * 1930, 1 x conv. to 145 hp Walter Mars 14 I-SR (#77)

Udet U 13 'Bayern' - 1926 2-seat biplane floatplane,* x 1
- U 13 'Bayern': 1 x 600 hp BMW VI V-12, span 15.00 m
-- * Built for Deutschen Seeflug-Wettbewerb competition
-- http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/other1/u13/u13-3.jpg
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u13.html

Udet U 14 - [Project] 1926 'Mexico' twin-engined multi-purpose biplane
- U 14: Nightfighter/recce a/c, led to similar 1929 BFW M 22*
-- * To satisfy RWM's code-name 'Najaku' project of late 1929

Udet U 15 - (??) speculative designation
Udet U 16 - (??) speculative designation

Udet U 17 - [Project] Improved 2-seat U 12 biplane trainer, Span 7,00 m

Udet-Flugzeugbau Unknown Designations

Udet Pinguin - no details

Udet Alpensegler - 1927 high-winged experimental glider, span [??]
-- Alpensegler translates as Alpine Swift (Apus melba)
-- http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Bildarchiv/FLU/16/B1201829T1886984.jpg
-- http://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/dbj2mcl/planeurs-machines/planeur-fiche_0int.php?code=3869
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[hesham]

Amazing work my dear,

and its projects is mentioned here.

http://www.gbv.de/dms/tib-ub-hannover/766124584.pdf

 

[Maveric]

From Hesham´s PDF, the U.17 and the "Pinguin" are not the same. I believe two different Projects.

 

[Apophenia]

From Hesham´s PDF, the U.17 and the "Pinguin" are not the same. I believe two different Projects.

Well spotted Maveric! Another source has the same contents listing: "Udet U 17, 'Pinguin' und weitere Projekte" ... that comma making all the difference

http://d-nb.info/1042690650/04

 

[richard]

Source :http://www.gbv.de/dms/tib-ub-hannover/766124584.pdf

About the U 14 "Mexico" : Project for a nightfighter and recco two engined biplane (1926) It became later , in 1929 , the very similar BFW M 22 .

http://www.fliegerweb.com/de/lexicon/Geschichte/BFW++M+22-436


About the U 17 : Improved U 12 Flamingo . Two seater , Span 7,00 m ; Length 5,55 m .

 

[hesham]

Amazing Info my dear Richard,many thanks.

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks Richard ... great stuff!

Am I correct in assuming that the U 17 was an unbuilt project?

 

[richard]

Thanks Richard ... great stuff!

Am I correct in assuming that the U 17 was an unbuilt project?

Yes , only a project .

 

[richard B]

Udet U 2 - 1923 2-seat low-wing light a/c, x 4*
- U 2: 1 x 35 hp Haacke HFM 2 HO2, span 8.90 m
-- U 2 basically a 2-seat version of the U 2
-- * German Aviation 1919-1945 lists 9 x reg.
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u2.html
-- 3v: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1923/1923 - 0122.html

Udet U 3 - 192? single-seat low-wing light a/c, x 1*
- U 3: 1 x Siemens Sh 4 5-cyl radial, span ?? m
-- * D-203, poss. a U 4 rebuilt as single-seater**
-- ** Other sources say U3 remained unbuilt project
-- http://www.histarmar.com.ar/AVIACION/SAEAvCivil/38.jpg (right)

Udet U 4 - 1923 2-seat low-wing light a/c, x
- U 4: 1 x Siemens Sh 4 5-cyl radial, span ?? m
-- More powerful development of the Udet U 2
-- http://www.histaviation.com/udet_u3.html

I am trying to understand the U 2 , U 3 and U 4 designations .

At first , I think they are no two-seater , but single seater only .

http://histaviation.com/udet_u2.html

The U.2 is said to have a 35 hp Haacke engine flat twin , the U.3 and U.4 a 55hp Siemens radial .
(On the German register , NO U.3 , 9 X U.2 and one U.4 (Bäumer Aero))

For some sources Udet went to Argentina with an U.2 and a U.3 , for other with an U.2 and U.4 :



Anyway , again an U2 with the Haacke and an U3 or U4 with a radial Siemens
Later , the Siemens one (race Nr 18 later 22) was modified , and identified as a U.4 :

http://histaviation.com/udet_u3.html

http://histaviation.com/udet_u4.html

I think
-Bruno Lange is right when he says "U 3 was a project only"
-Udet went in Argentina with an U2 and an U4 , later modified in Argentina when Udet returned in Germany

What do you think about that , my dear Watson ?