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from https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/dark-moon-rising-archibald-space-tl.36857/post-587225


You need minimum FOUR UA1205 or UA1207 under S-IVB to get that payload in Low orbit  (Apollo CSM)

although Two UA1207 with S-IVB and Centaur would give nice Ariane 5 analog for GEO Sat and Space probes.


My calculations for this Aries 1 version with Apollo CSM into low orbit


1x UA1207 = mass 319330 kg - Empty 51230 kg - ISP 272 sec

interstage 1500 kg (1% of mass above)

1x S-IVB = mass 118800 kg - Empty 12.900 kg - ISP 421

Adapter for payload =1700 kg

payload = 15.200 kg Apollo CSM

LES = 4000 kg


We get launch mass of 460530 kg vs thrust 1451496 kg, means its take off

after UA1207 operations V1= 2328,497 meter/s

jettison UA1207 & interstage and LES

after S-IVB operation V2= 6260,839 meter/s

Total deltaV (V1+V2) = 8589,33 meter/sec


But now too ugly part, aerodynamic (128 meter/s) and Gravity (1308 meter/s) Losses and needed Orbital speed.

into a 200 km orbit give 9277 meter/sec means it missing 687,67 meter/sec, what the payload has to correct it self.


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