The world of James Bond

Arjen said:
I beg to differ.

I collect movies on DVD and BluRay, because I love the way a story can be told in moving pictures. I have something like a thousand hand-picked titles on the shelves here. Dutch, German, French, Japanese, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Italian, Chinese, South Korean, South African. British. And American. This is not an exhaustive list.
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You are a lot more cosmopolitan than me. My point is that Hollywood is doing less in the way of entertainment and more in the way of issue advocacy.
 
Is there hope in this Time of Darkness?

I think yes
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edwest4 said:
You are a lot more cosmopolitan than me. My point is that Hollywood is doing less in the way of entertainment and more in the way of issue advocacy.
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I don't remember which writer was responsible, but when asked to comment on '90 percent of science fiction is junk', his answer was '90 percent of all fiction is junk'. Same with comics/music/moving pictures. Or beer, for that matter. Read/watch/listen/taste, discard what you don't like, cherish the good things, know how to recognise them. Even if they take some getting used to, the first time I sat through Bach's St Matthew's Passion it was an awful long slog. Now I love it to bits.
 
Arjen said:
I don't remember which writer was responsible, but when asked to comment on '90 percent of science fiction is junk', his answer was '90 percent of all fiction is junk'. Same with comics/music/moving pictures. Or beer, for that matter. Read/watch/listen/taste, discard what you don't like, cherish the good things, know how to recognise them. Even if they take some getting used to, the first time I sat through Bach's St Matthew's Passion it was an awful long slog. Now I love it to bits.
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I understand. However, Hollywood has gone through various phases over the decades. The current phase produces what I call advocacy drivel. To Hollywood, as long as it ticks the correct boxes, it gets promoted, especially to those not yet on the 'issue of the day' bandwagon. My desire to collect any of it has disappeared. And I can get the older stuff I mostly like, but I prefer the stuff I really, really like.
 
The character of Superman was created in a time of depression when American children needed heroes. The character of James Bond was created to entertain a society ruined by the loss of the Empire, the Lend Lease bill and the need to confront the Soviets in a cold, expensive and endless war that no one could win. In the absence of real victories, the popular imagination needed to believe that someone was doing something important somewhere, but it was confidential.

So, they took a village policeman, dressed him elegantly, exchanged his old revolver for sophisticated technological toys, raised the intellectual level of the usual thieves and neighborhood prostitutes to create enemies and believable entertainments and rewrote some real missions of the Second World War watering the whole thing with enough money. It worked because the audience needed something to go right.

But today's public is very different, and political correctness has made the creation of any kind of villains unfeasible, prohibited the exhibition of beautiful women-objects and prevented happy endings.

They should never have shot the dwarf movie, maybe if they had waited until they had more money, they could have avoided the decline of the series for a few more years.

The model is dead.
 

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The model is never dead. Political incorrectness is the current rule in Hollywood. As long as it goes against previous conventions, it gets made. However, as our chief editor told us: "I want heroes that are heroic." The company I work for still holds to the original model when it comes to storytelling. People still want intelligent, elegant men and women. People that engage in real relationships. People with clearly defined convictions. In the post-Cold War world, there are still threats and heroes are still needed.
 
In the film Thunderball, SPECTRE's headquarters are shown to be in Paris, camouflaged as a charity and protected by the police. But in my opinion, it was only a regional headquarters... It seems that in the next few months we will finally know where the central organization of the octopus was located.

Proposals are accepted.

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Michel Van said:
Is there hope in this Time of Darkness?

I think yes
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I would think that the poorly received Apple produced spy spoof Argyl would put an end to any speculation about Henry Cavill as Bond.
edwest4 said:
The model is never dead. Political incorrectness is the current rule in Hollywood. As long as it goes against previous conventions, it gets made. However, as our chief editor told us: "I want heroes that are heroic." The company I work for still holds to the original model when it comes to storytelling. People still want intelligent, elegant men and women. People that engage in real relationships. People with clearly defined convictions. In the post-Cold War world, there are still threats and heroes are still needed.
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In the post-Cold War world all of the threats are of our own making and there are no clearly defined convictions. Nothing has really changed, though, except for an awareness of universal hypocrisy. In 1945, the United States funded Ho Chi Minh while a British garrison rearmed Japanese POWs to successfully take control of Saigon. The morality of 2025 remains just as ambiguous as 1945. We're just more aware of that constant ambiguity.

Sean Connery made the Bond franchise work because he played the character as a physically dominating, gleeful psychopath, taking inappropriate joy in violence. "Queen and Country" meant absolutely nothing to non-British audiences or apparently to Connery's Bond. Bond was a bully and a socio-pathic anti-hero. It worked.

Probably the best actor to recapture the presence of Connery with a modern ethos is Ma Dong Seok aka Don Lee. He's fluent in English and has the physical presence of an early 1960s Connery. Moreover, the concept of an incredibly obvious gentleman spy is totally played out. Connery's Scottish accent and working class demeanor we at odds with Ian Fleming's original conception of James Bond. If Fleming had had his way, Bond would have been played by David Niven and the serious would have failed. Don Lee would be a plausible modern successor to Connery.
 
Justo Miranda said:
The character of Superman was created in a time of depression when American children needed heroes. The character of James Bond was created to entertain a society ruined by the loss of the Empire, the Lend Lease bill and the need to confront the Soviets in a cold, expensive and endless war that no one could win. In the absence of real victories, the popular imagination needed to believe that someone was doing something important somewhere, but it was confidential.

So, they took a village policeman, dressed him elegantly, exchanged his old revolver for sophisticated technological toys, raised the intellectual level of the usual thieves and neighborhood prostitutes to create enemies and believable entertainments and rewrote some real missions of the Second World War watering the whole thing with enough money. It worked because the audience needed something to go right.

But today's public is very different, and political correctness has made the creation of any kind of villains unfeasible, prohibited the exhibition of beautiful women-objects and prevented happy endings.

They should never have shot the dwarf movie, maybe if they had waited until they had more money, they could have avoided the decline of the series for a few more years.

The model is dead.
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The model is dead, long live the model!
 
Despite the depressing reality, I have not yet lost faith in the intelligence of the British (wherever it is now), Star Wars could never have been filmed in California, the steam engine could never have been built outside England, the Royal Navy was the first to find credible solutions to operate jets, radar, atomic research, V bombers, Falklands... These people are not yet finished and can give great surprises.
 
Amazon Delivers. The new Bond Car.
“Apparently there were rumours of giving him a V12 Aston Martin Valiant with an AI-powered assistant and putting him in the middle of a new cold war, but that was quickly dashed because ‘it’s what everyone will expect’,” a source told TopGear.com.
“So, the producers are working night and day on refining a stone cold classic – the Wienermobile – and outfitting it with a host of outlandish, hilariously ill-suited gadgets,” the source added.

When pushed on the creative dissonance between 70+ years of traditional, elegant and visually-appropriate 007 spy cars, the source said: “There’ll be like, three spin-off series explaining the complicated back story of how it morphed from a simple Silver Birch Aston Martin DB5 to a bright orange Wienermobile that makes fart noises.”
Sources report 007’s new Wienermobile will be equipped with a mobile sausage grinder, a projectile ketchup dispenser and a horn with his new signature ‘whaa-whaaaa’ catchphrase.
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The future approaches at a steady 60 seconds a minute, 60 minutes an hour, 24 hours a day.
I find it easiest to judge movies once they're out.
 
Amy Pascal produce the James Bond films Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall.
David Heyman produce all Harry Potter movies and Spinoff
That already positive
but if both are able to work together is another question.
 
Michel Van said:
Amy Pascal produce the James Bond films Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall.
David Heyman produce all Harry Potter movies and Spinoff
That already positive
but if both are able to work together is another question.
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In my opinion the films produced by Amy are the worst of the entire series, except for the one about the dwarf.

Harry Potter is a mixture of the most sinister British school traditions with the glorification of anti-science.

What can emerge from a mixture between the two cultures?

A camel is a horse designed by a committee.
 

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