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Did any of you who so easily bash "that Bill Sweetman anti F-35 EADS payee biased anti-american nutter ha!" bothered to read the report ? ( 55 pages btw)

The concurrency idea might well indeed be DOD's fault, but also LM did not delivered bigtime. It's not DOD who designed the plane, but LM. Even before the thing flew they got it wrong ( see SWAT ). And how the hell this suposedly unsurpassed aerospace company can't design a bloody tail hook ?!

Remember all these issues were discovered at roughly what 20% of testing ? (less for fatigue testing) . What else are they going to find in the rest 80%? And even if they devise fixes for most or all of the present issues , if they are implemented BEFORE the testing is finished , what makes you ( or them ) think these "fixes" are not going to cause problems in other areas.

Oh and how come they are so concerned about weight growth and keeping the weight in very tight reins for the whole life of the aircraft , if the F-135 is ( as some claim ) not 43, 000lb thrust but 50,000lb?

Oh well , grab some more popcorn folks the saga goes on. ;D

<blockquote data-quote="lancer21" data-source="post: 140082" data-attributes="member: 3978">Did any of you who so easily bash &quot;that Bill Sweetman anti F-35 EADS payee biased anti-american nutter ha!&quot; bothered to read the report ? ( 55 pages btw)The concurrency idea might well indeed be DOD's fault, but also LM did not delivered&nbsp; bigtime.&nbsp; It's not DOD who designed the plane, but LM. Even before the thing flew they got it wrong ( see SWAT ). And how the hell this suposedly unsurpassed aerospace company can't design a bloody tail hook ?!Remember all these issues were discovered at roughly what 20% of testing ? (less for fatigue testing) . What else are they going to find in the rest 80%?&nbsp; And even if they devise fixes for most or all of the present issues , if they are implemented BEFORE the testing is finished , what makes you ( or them ) think these &quot;fixes&quot; are not going to cause problems in other areas.Oh and how come they are so concerned about weight growth and keeping the weight in very tight reins for the whole life of the aircraft , if the F-135 is ( as some claim ) not 43, 000lb thrust&nbsp; but 50,000lb?Oh well , grab some more popcorn folks the saga goes on. ;D</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lancer21, post: 140082, member: 3978"] Did any of you who so easily bash "that Bill Sweetman anti F-35 EADS payee biased anti-american nutter ha!" bothered to read the report ? ( 55 pages btw) The concurrency idea might well indeed be DOD's fault, but also LM did not delivered bigtime. It's not DOD who designed the plane, but LM. Even before the thing flew they got it wrong ( see SWAT ). And how the hell this suposedly unsurpassed aerospace company can't design a bloody tail hook ?! Remember all these issues were discovered at roughly what 20% of testing ? (less for fatigue testing) . What else are they going to find in the rest 80%? And even if they devise fixes for most or all of the present issues , if they are implemented BEFORE the testing is finished , what makes you ( or them ) think these "fixes" are not going to cause problems in other areas. Oh and how come they are so concerned about weight growth and keeping the weight in very tight reins for the whole life of the aircraft , if the F-135 is ( as some claim ) not 43, 000lb thrust but 50,000lb? Oh well , grab some more popcorn folks the saga goes on. ;D [/QUOTE]

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