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However to the substaintive argument you seem to be claiming that the US "won't do BVR" but others will? Everyone flying a fighting aircraft wants to kill at the longest ranges possible. How someone is going to do BVR against a low observable aircraft like the F-22 and F-35 is a bit of a mystery to me? Magical L band leading edge radars and other nonsense aside if you can't detect an aircraft until it is ~20km away you aren't going to be able to deploy a BVR weapon before you are within visual engagement ranges.


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