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Why is it that most arsenal ship designs are really big, feature ballasting to reduce surface profiles, and usually feature a double or triple hull?If the role is truly a mobile missile magazine, why not a more distributed approach? The basic qualifier is it must keep up with the ships providing the targeting (but doesn't that go out the window once in hull down mode anyways?) so you are already favoring a slim hull. Doesn't that start pushing towards something like those older WW2 IJN fast destroyers? A slim hull with a single line of VLS cells? Which makes for a potential application of a strut+torpedo hull layout like HYSWAS or the proposed PHM mod, if the strut is wide enough to accept a VLS cell. You need cutter level manning since the crew are mostly univolved with weapon use. If people are serious about the all eggs in one basket issue, then increasing the hull count is the only viable option. Though that may lend itself to USV ops and going fully unmanned. It's not like these will stray very far from a fleet except to go home and reload.SSGN is nice, and keeps china on its toes. Though that is based on the ability to hide, which interferes with the ability to be on call. The ability to hide is getting harder as well, as current ocean LIDAR advancement may soon lead to the ocean becoming transparent to those with the sensors. Once SSGN's lose their ability to hide, we are back to arguments surrounding surface arsenal ships. Which leads to the interesting question, is there enough of a need to justify semisubmersible or low depth littoral submersible ship designs similar conceptually to SSGN? Which would be an interesting back door development path for diesel sub AIP hardware. Assuming the water is there to protect, and the enemy doesn't respond in kind with torpedo payload cruise missiles...
Why is it that most arsenal ship designs are really big, feature ballasting to reduce surface profiles, and usually feature a double or triple hull?
If the role is truly a mobile missile magazine, why not a more distributed approach? The basic qualifier is it must keep up with the ships providing the targeting (but doesn't that go out the window once in hull down mode anyways?) so you are already favoring a slim hull. Doesn't that start pushing towards something like those older WW2 IJN fast destroyers? A slim hull with a single line of VLS cells? Which makes for a potential application of a strut+torpedo hull layout like HYSWAS or the proposed PHM mod, if the strut is wide enough to accept a VLS cell. You need cutter level manning since the crew are mostly univolved with weapon use. If people are serious about the all eggs in one basket issue, then increasing the hull count is the only viable option. Though that may lend itself to USV ops and going fully unmanned. It's not like these will stray very far from a fleet except to go home and reload.
SSGN is nice, and keeps china on its toes. Though that is based on the ability to hide, which interferes with the ability to be on call. The ability to hide is getting harder as well, as current ocean LIDAR advancement may soon lead to the ocean becoming transparent to those with the sensors. Once SSGN's lose their ability to hide, we are back to arguments surrounding surface arsenal ships. Which leads to the interesting question, is there enough of a need to justify semisubmersible or low depth littoral submersible ship designs similar conceptually to SSGN? Which would be an interesting back door development path for diesel sub AIP hardware. Assuming the water is there to protect, and the enemy doesn't respond in kind with torpedo payload cruise missiles...
