SU-27 vs Bayraktar

One of these times the Flanker is going to go down.
 
Nah if it keeps up they will ultimately stop playing goofy political games and shoot it down. Knowing ruskies they might even use the cannon.

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apparition13 said:
sferrin said:
One of these times the Flanker is going to go down.
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Boobytrap them and the interceptor will be going down.
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In the movies, the drone would simply have a spark igniter on a wingtip... Flanker flies in front of it spewing fuel, drone sparks the fuel, fuel ignites and the flame propagates rapidly back to the Flanker, Flanker goes *FOOM.* However, that's not how physics works, outside of Hollywood.
 
Do you really think a fighter jet will lose to a drone? There will be a political decision and all these Reapers and Global Hawks will lie at the bottom
 
paralay said:
Do you really think a fighter jet will lose to a drone? There will be a political decision and all these Reapers and Global Hawks will lie at the bottom
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If the drone that shot a Stinger at a MiG-25 had been shooting an AIM-9X instead the MiG would have been toast. And if Russia forces the West to escort their drones it will be MiGs and Sukhois that will be littering the seabed. So yeah, do something stupid.
 
sferrin said:
paralay said:
Do you really think a fighter jet will lose to a drone? There will be a political decision and all these Reapers and Global Hawks will lie at the bottom
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If the drone that shot a Stinger at a MiG-25 had been shooting an AIM-9X instead the MiG would have been toast. And if Russia forces the West to escort their drones it will be MiGs and Sukhois that will be littering the seabed. So yeah, do something stupid.
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Well, as with anything a lot depends on relative positioning. What is the ZNE of a Stinger missile against a Mig-25 at cruise speed? What about an AIM-9X... if you can't kinetically reach the target the speed of your missile doesn't matter.

sferrin said:
TMA1 said:
Nah if it keeps up they will ultimately stop playing goofy political games and shoot it down.
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Yes. Would cause all kinds of anguish for the Flanker fanbois (if any still exist).
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Honestly, I'm still a fan - I think it is a pretty amazing design for the 1970s and retains exceptionally good performance in spite of its size. It represents a major improvement on past Soviet designs while combining a lot of the capabilities of a long ranged interceptor with those of a medium fighter.

Of course, it was limited due to avionics which provided poor situational awareness. With the introduction of the AIM-120 it was further at a disadvantage. But it is still a pretty robust design from an engineering standpoint, with a number of pretty elegant solutions.
 
Avimimus said:
sferrin said:
paralay said:
Do you really think a fighter jet will lose to a drone? There will be a political decision and all these Reapers and Global Hawks will lie at the bottom
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If the drone that shot a Stinger at a MiG-25 had been shooting an AIM-9X instead the MiG would have been toast. And if Russia forces the West to escort their drones it will be MiGs and Sukhois that will be littering the seabed. So yeah, do something stupid.
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Well, as with anything a lot depends on relative positioning. What is the ZNE of a Stinger missile against a Mig-25 at cruise speed? What about an AIM-9X... if you can't kinetically reach the target the speed of your missile doesn't matter.

sferrin said:
TMA1 said:
Nah if it keeps up they will ultimately stop playing goofy political games and shoot it down.
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Yes. Would cause all kinds of anguish for the Flanker fanbois (if any still exist).
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Honestly, I'm still a fan - I think it is a pretty amazing design for the 1970s and retains exceptionally good performance in spite of its size. It represents a major improvement on past Soviet designs while combining a lot of the capabilities of a long ranged interceptor with those of a medium fighter.

Of course, it was limited due to avionics which provided poor situational awareness. With the introduction of the AIM-120 it was further at a disadvantage. But it is still a pretty robust design from an engineering standpoint, with a number of pretty elegant solutions.
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I was talking about the rabid, "Flanker is the greatest, mostest, badest, airplane of all time" fanatics. :) I still like the looks of the Su-35. (I don't like the canard/2-seaters.)
 
sferrin said:
Avimimus said:
sferrin said:
TMA1 said:
Nah if it keeps up they will ultimately stop playing goofy political games and shoot it down.
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Yes. Would cause all kinds of anguish for the Flanker fanbois (if any still exist).
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Honestly, I'm still a fan - I think it is a pretty amazing design for the 1970s and retains exceptionally good performance in spite of its size. It represents a major improvement on past Soviet designs while combining a lot of the capabilities of a long ranged interceptor with those of a medium fighter.

Of course, it was limited due to avionics which provided poor situational awareness. With the introduction of the AIM-120 it was further at a disadvantage. But it is still a pretty robust design from an engineering standpoint, with a number of pretty elegant solutions.
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I was talking about the rabid, "Flanker is the greatest, mostest, badest, airplane of all time" fanatics. :) I still like the looks of the Su-35. (I don't like the canard/2-seaters.)
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Didn't the original Su-35 have Canards though? ;)

I kind-of like the canards myself - less than perfect as a solution - but I do like weird, and the way they dealt with trim issues and added a second seat (whether on the Su-34 or Su-30) is certainly distinctive. I do understand other people being less eccentric though.
 

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