SOCATA / DAHER-SOCATA Designations

[Jemiba]

I've tried to collect the designations for SOCATA (today DAHER-SOCATA) aircraft,
the Rallye series were the re-designated Morane Saulnier MS.880 to MS.894 types.
For the HALE proposal (without known desigantion) see http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1245.msg10055.html#msg10055


Rallye 100, ex MS.880
Rallye 125, ex MS.887
Rallye 150, ex MS.892
Rallye 180, ex MS.893
Rallye 220, ex MS.894
Rallye 235, ex MS.892
Gaillard, ex Rallye 180
Galérien, ex Rallye 180
Minerva, ex Rallye 220
Gabier, ex Rallye 235
Galopin, ex Rallye 110
Garnement, version of Rallye 150
Guerrier, military version of the Rallye 235
Gaucho, agricultural version of the Rallye 235
ST 70, 1967, 1 engine, 4 seats, Diplomate development of the Gardan GY-80 Horizon,
TB 2, 1982 1 engine, 2 seats, "minimum" sports a/c project
TB 9, 1979 1 engine, 4-5 seats, Tampico
TB 10, 1977 1 engine, 4-5 seats, Tobago
TB 11, 1 engine, 4-5 seats, TB 10 version
TB 15, 1 engine, 4-5 seats, proposed version of the basic TB 10
TB 16, 1 engine, 4-5 seats, proposed version of the basic TB 10
TB 20, 1980 1 engine, 4-5 seats, Trinidad,
TB 21, 1 engine, 4-5 seats, Trinidad TC,turbocharged version of the TB 20
TB2X, 1 Diesel , 4-5 seats, project, production planned in Romania
TB 200, 1 engine, 4-5 seats, Tobago XL
TB 30, 1979 2 seat trainer, TB 10 derivative Epsilon
TB 31, 1985 2 seat trainer, 1 TP engine, TB 30 derivative Omega 1 built
TB 60, 1982 2 engines, 1 + 9 seats, high wing light transport , project
TB 360, 1995 2 engines, 4 seats, Tangara, license version of the Gulfstream GA-7 Cougar, no production
TBM 700, 1988 1 TP engine, 1 + 5 seats
TBM 850, 2005 1 TP engine, 1 + 5 seats development of TB 700
TBM HALE (?), 1995 1 TP engine, HALE version of the TBM 700, project
? ? ? , 2011 (?) 2 jet engines, 10 seats, program launch postponed

 

[walter]

Hi Jemiba
An experimental TB-20 designated TBH-20. The experimental TB20 Trinidad aircraft was flown on 16 March 1995. It was fitted with a T-tail and featured canard fore planes. The aircraft was used to test the so called gust alleviation surfaces/wings developed by Mr. René Hirsch with the H denoting Hirsch in the designation. The aircraft was later converted back to standard TB20 configuration.

 

[toura]

Hi Jens
an old project
(from aviation magazine)

 

[hesham]

Great list my dear Jemiba,as usual,


There is also ST.10 Diplomate and ST.60 a well known aircraft;


TB-320 was early version of Grumman/Gulfstream GA-7
Sherpa STOL aircraft,well known
MS-180 and MS-250;
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=368

 

[toura]

always from "aviation magazine

 

[toura]

Hi Jens

Why (?)
From "Air et cosmos" n° 1524 june 23 1995

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the ST-60 was called Rallye 7,also there is a mystery designation,ST-19,appeared on the
Internet,maybe a misprint for ST-10.

 

[Hood]

Some updates for the TBM 700, their designations alongside the marketing names.

TBM 700 - TBM 700
TBM 700B - TBM 7
TBM 700C1 - TBM 700
TBM 700C2 - TBM 700
TBM 700N - TBM 850, 900, 910, 930 and 940

Source: Air Britain, Aviation World, 2020

 

[sat_dxer]

The author of 'The Frenchman' spy Jack Beaumont (pseudonym) discusses with Phillip Adams on Late Night Live flying missions as a pilot of the TBM 700 @4:24

The reality of life as a spy - ABC listen

Jack Beaumont is the pseudonym for a former spy with the DGSE, French Foreign Secret Service. He has written a nail-biting thriller called 'The Frenchman' about the reality of being an under-cover operative, and is far from the picture painted by John Le Carre or Ian Fleming.

www.abc.net.au

 

[dan_inbox]

Hi Jens
an old project
(from aviation magazine)

Note that this was really a project to licence-manufacture the IAI Arava.
(did not happen in the end)

 

[Grey Havoc]

(did not happen in the end)

The eternal bane that is Politics, I presume?

 

[dan_inbox]

I don't really know.
All I can say is that the Arava's main success was in developping countries like South America, PNG and Africa. To succeed in this market, cost is paramount. Personally I do not see how Manufacturing in the Morane Saulnier factories in France would be any cheaper than in Israel.
Prevalence of unions, minimum salary/SMIC and all that. But I'm no expert in that field.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1975,my dear Jemiba,

there is a new series,TB-12,TB-13 & TB-14,also it tells about X-271,I think
it was a misprint,and they meant X-270 ?.

 

[Apophenia]

...also it tells about X-271,I think it was a misprint,and they meant X-270 ?.

Not necessarily.

FranceArchives mentions the X 271 in the context of SOCATA's requests for state financing assistance. Alas, no details are given for the X 271 itself but the financing request is dated 1975 (whereas similar funding requests for the X 270 were dated 1973-1974).