Shorts PD.17 VTOL Fighter Jet Take-Off Platform

[Rickshaw]

Looking for drawings and info about the Shorts S.17D VTOL "platform" which was intended to carry the English Electric P.17A precursor to the TSR.2.

 

[Jemiba]

And old drawing, mainly based on Derek Wood "Project Cancelled", just the underside view added and with
wheels, as shown in an artist impression in the mentioned book.

 

[Rickshaw]

Thanks! Thats perfect. Any idea what lift engines were to be used?

 

[Jemiba]

According to Derek Wood:
44 fixed RB.108, 16 tilting RB.108 and ten RB.108 or 145 with 60° jet deflection.
A dream for every jet engine manufacturer !

 

[Rickshaw]

RR definitely weren't going to go bust if it had been adopted...

 

[Stargazer]

I do not know where you got the designations S.17D or even P.17D from...

The project was part of the "PD." series of Short designs and was designated PD.17.

The fighter was part of the "P." series of English Electric designs and was designation P.17A.

What I do not know is whether the presence of the number "17" in both was purely coincidental or not.

I'm attaching a couple more pictures:

• an old three-view arrangement
• a period illustration showing the P.17A atop the PD.17
• three CG renderings recently posted by BAE Systems (and wrongly labeled as P.17A + "P.17D"... :-\ )

 

[Jemiba]

I do not know where you got the designations S.17D or even P.17D from.....

Easy to answer: From the same source, I've got the basic drawings from. Derek Woods "Project
Cancelled". Sorry, if I was taken in by a faulty designation. :-\
Maybe the "P.17" designation was meant to mark the whole system ?

 

[Stargazer]

I do not know where you got the designations S.17D or even P.17D from.....

Easy to answer: From the same source, I've got the basic drawings from. Derek Woods "Project
Cancelled". Sorry, if I was taken in by a faulty designation. :-\
Maybe the "P.17" designation was meant to mark the whole system ?

That's what I thought too at one point. But at that time Shorts and English Electric were still independent companies and their projects were not numbered in the same sequence. Only possibility I can see is if the Shorts PD.17 was also designated by E.E. as the P.17D, but that is quite a stretch without evidence from company documents.

 

[scautomoton]

Dredging this one up. Can anyone advise what submission documents may be available for the PD.17 and where they are likely stored? It's a hard one to search for on the KEW online system.