Saab civil project

[boxkite]

This artwork was shown in FLIGHT 18 - 24 September 1996 (page 4), titled "This is one early Saab configuration never likely to see the light of day".

Did it get a model number?

 

[Triton]

Saab LAA-2 6702

Artist's impression of Saab LAA-2 6702

Source:
http://rilleman.blogspot.com/2008/07/de-som-aldrig-flg.html

 

[Grey Havoc]

Re: Saab LAA-2 6702

High speed transport to maintain external air routes/communication links in times of heightened tensions or crisis/war?

 

[hesham]

Re: Saab civil projects

Hi,


here is some SAAB Civil Projects,I hope to get their drawings;


94: Business aircraft, basically a twin engined Safir and like the Aero Commander.
100: Business aircraft, 4-5 passengers, 1956.
102: Twin rear engined jetliner, 45 passengers, 1958.
103: Twin turboprop airliner for 1200 m fields, 68 passengers, 1958.
104: One nose mounted turboprop, one jet in tail, 600 m field, 24 passengers, 1957.
105: Twin engined trainer, Swedish air force designation SK 60, 1958, 188 built 1966-72.105CT: A four seat
civilian business jet version of the above, no bubble canopy.
106: Business jet derivative of the 105 with longer cabin, 4 or 6 passengers, 2 crew, 1959.
108: Turboprop (-3) and jet (-5) commuters, 28 or 36 passengers, 1970 (number later reused).
115/108-6: Three engined jet commuter, 24 passengers, 1970 (both numbers later reused).
107: Several 600/1200 m (STOL/RTOL) field transport aircraft in different sizes and configurations, 1967-69: 107-1 STOL, 4 turboprops, 44 passengers; 107-2 RTOL, 2 or 4 turbofans, 44 passengers; 107-3 (and -4 with canard) RTOL, 2 turbofans, 80 passengers, cockpit over opening nose.
108-4 2 turboprops, 30 passengers or 3400 kg cargo.
109: Twin engined business jet, rear mounted engines with air intakes on top of the fuselage in front of the fin,5 passengers, 1969.
110: As 109 but three engines and up to nine passengers.
111: Single engine agricultural turboprop, 1 ton payload (or three passengers), 1977.
112: Twin jet corporate aircraft, 15 passengers, 1969.
113: Three engined corporate jet, 25 passengers, 1969.
115: Four turboprop STOL transport/airliner, 100 passengers, 1970.
116, 117, 118 STOL transporter in cooperation with HFB with 100, 60 and 40 passengers with four turboprops, 1971
190: Super Scandia, twin ALF 502 commuter jet (over the wings for grass field capability), 1975.
191: Possible Bulldog/Saab 105 replacement for the Swedish air force, nose and canopy very like 105 (which can also be said for Fairchild T-46) with either a single jet on top of the fuselage, twin jets
in the rear fuselage,
one pulling or pushing turboprop.
Forestry crane helicopter, rotor tip jets, 1964
Autogiro, 4 persons, 1965
200: 700 kg empty weight helicopter, 2-3 persons, 1968.
201: Saab Safir fitted with J 29 Tunnan wing in 1947, used for low speed trials.
202: The same Safir now with Lansen wing, flew from 1950

 

[toura]

it seems to be civil ,,

 

[TomS]

We have it here as well.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12758.0

No idea of the role, but the caption does say "airliner" in Swedish. Judging by the door under the canard, it's not a small plane either. The cockpit seems a bit out of scale, though.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Toura,


and I hope to get any drawings to those projects.

 

[hesham]

From Flygvapen NYTT magazine,


here is the SAAB-100 a light transport aircraft with high-wing and powered by two engines.

 

[hesham]

From Flygvapen NYTT magazine,


here is also the SAAB-1084 medium transport high wing twin engined project,fitted with
twin tail fin.

 

[hesham]

At first,we can merge those topics;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8152.msg246266.html#msg246266


the SAAB projects, Models 103,1072,1084,FTP75 & SF.3000.


http://saabveteran.se/lunch/141119_saab340.pdf
http://www.saabveteran.se/110417totalt/110417_edlund.pdf

 

[Jemiba]

At first,we can merge those topics;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8152.msg246266.html#msg246266

Correct, but a little bit difficult, as there were two projects posted in the first post of that thread.

So, I would just point to the Saab Supersonic Executive jet (SSE), shown here
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8152.0.html

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Jemiba.

 

[weirc]

Some images of FTP 75 from Air International / March 1990


Further images attached

 

[hesham]

Nice find Weirc,many thanks.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

please can I ask,from which book or magazine this page ?.

 

[riggerrob]

Interesting how the Saab 1084 starts as a "DC-3 replacement" then evolved into an "inflated Skyvan" and then resembled the successful LET 410.
Does the round fuselage cross-section imply a pressurized cabin?

During the 1950s and 1960s dozens of factories attempted "DC-3 replacements" but few could compete with the low cost of military surplus airframes and even fewer sold significant numbers.

Curiosity about the "inflated Skyvan" makes us wonder about the internal dimensions of the cabin, location of cargo doors and why it has dihedral in the horizontal tail.
Shorts sold significant numbers of Skyvans, Skyliners and Sherpas. Today many still haul odd-shaped cargo and train military paratroopers because they can operate for a fraction of the cost of a C-130. As a side note, when American Special Forces needed to resupply outposts near the Afghan-Pakistan border, they bought a couple of PZL Skytrucks, which look like this SAAB 1084.

How big was the market for SAAB 1084?
Would it have sold better than Skyvan, CASA 212, PZL Skytruck, etc.?

 

[hesham]

Hi Riggerrob,

I think this SAAB-1084 couldn't achieve a successful such as CASA-212 or the same
class of airplanes fulfilled for replacing DC-3.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a SAAB-105C,a five seat executive version of trainer aircraft,remained a project only.

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19660509/14/2

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I don't know if this artist drawing was a real design or a hypothetical one ?.

http://www.saabveteran.se/minnen/d21/d21omslag.htm

 

[TomS]

That has to be a joke. It's a Gripen wing and tail mated to a Saab 340 or Saab 2000 forward fuselage.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 14/11/1953.

 

[dan_inbox]

Here are a photo of each:

 

[hesham]

From aviation magazine Inter. 1969.

 

[Wolfhart]

Hi,

I don't know if this artist drawing was a real design or a hypothetical one ?.

Sidan hittades inte – Veteranklubben

www.saabveteran.se

The text says: "Future conditions for Swedish aircraft industry - consequences of an increasing civilian engagement"
So the pic is simply an illustration of this article.

 

[hesham]

Thank you Wolfhart and welcome aboard.

 

[flateric]

PD340 project study performed for Williams-Rolls Inc. with support from Saab Aerospace AB, Karlebo Aviation AB and KTH.

 

[hesham]

From Air Pictorial 1967,

what was this V/STOL transport project ?.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1989,

here is a SAAB-2000,I hope to get SAAB-440 ?.