ROMA

[Justo Miranda]

ROMA

 

[publiusr]

Forget Turtledove…Alexandria’s Hypatia needed “Old Painless”

Moon landing circa 966.

 

[archipeppe]

To postulate such chain of events, it is necessary to have the following conditions:

1. Industrial revolution should happen between 1st and 2nd century.
2. The outcome of industrial revolution would be an automaztion process similiar to the Victorian England and the end if slavery as such.
3. The new industrialized Roman Empire should overcome the barbarians people.
4. The Roman Empire should establish firm and solid relationships with Chinese Empire in order to get silk and rocketry.
5. The Roman Empire should get telegraph and radio communications.
6. Maybe the Christianity should have a different form (Arians?).

So a lot of factors to have in place to get a Roman Moon Landing around 900 A.D. , only God (and maybe Harry Turtledove) knows it if there are more around....

 

[airman]

I'm following on Youtube an uchronia of "Orbis" on an italian channel where narrator and followers with their contributions imagine " What if Western Roman Empire not fallen on 476" : i'm in love with this uchronia.

 

[Justo Miranda]

I'm following on Youtube an uchronia of "Orbis" on an italian channel where narrator and followers with their contributions imagine " What if Western Roman Empire not fallen on 476" : i'm in love with this uchronia.

If the industrial age had begun with Rome, humanity would have been spared the Middle Ages and would have gained 1000 years of technological development. If we were hit tonight by an asteroid the size of Switzerland, which no one has seen coming, 2 billion years of human evolution would be stupidly lost in a second. A single salvo of the main armament of the battlecruiser S.A.S 497 Glenn would have turned it into subatomic particles, but all our colonies on the outer worlds, the Glenn and the rest of the Starfleet are still a thousand years in the future.

 

[Michel Van]

The (technical) evolution of consist Roman Empire depend on many factors,

One is cheap labour and slavery, if you get easy worker, why need machines ?
Here the Roman and China empire never had need to develop machines to replace worker.
The Black Death was game changer that force Europa to develop those machines, what later let to the industrial Revolution.

Religion plays major key in technical evolution
Would keep Rome it old gods and never adopt Christendom as state religion.
This hamper certain research like into electricity, because consider heretic toward god of lightning, Jupiter.
it could prevent develop electric power machine, electronics and digital computers
This could stuck the consist Roman Empire in steampunk tech level.

Another issue is lack of innovation or political hampering,
There is urban legend were Emperor Tiberius was confronted, with inventor that created possibly Aluminum.
but the inventor was murder on order Tiberius, who was worried that this "light silber" is used in false money...

Roman were good in Iron works, but not making quality Steel, needed for Railways or construction and machine building.

And there is finance issue to invest to build machine, since Romans had not Banks or Stockmarket.
also that they missing book printing what needed for better educations needed to build Machine...

Here also nice video that tell why Romans never had industrial Revolution.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UB3SHBaMsw

 

[Justo Miranda]

The (technical) evolution of consist Roman Empire depend on many factors,

One is cheap labour and slavery, if you get easy worker, why need machines ?
Here the Roman and China empire never had need to develop machines to replace worker.
The Black Death was game changer that force Europa to develop those machines, what later let to the industrial Revolution.

Religion plays major key in technical evolution
Would keep Rome it old gods and never adopt Christendom as state religion.
This hamper certain research like into electricity, because consider heretic toward god of lightning, Jupiter.
it could prevent develop electric power machine, electronics and digital computers
This could stuck the consist Roman Empire in steampunk tech level.

Another issue is lack of innovation or political hampering,
There is urban legend were Emperor Tiberius was confronted, with inventor that created possibly Aluminum.
but the inventor was murder on order Tiberius, who was worried that this "light silber" is used in false money...

Roman were good in Iron works, but not making quality Steel, needed for Railways or construction and machine building.

And there is finance issue to invest to build machine, since Romans had not Banks or Stockmarket.
also that they missing book printing what needed for better educations needed to build Machine...

Here also nice video that tell why Romans never had industrial Revolution.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UB3SHBaMsw

The England of 1769 had similar problems but when the time came a guy patented the steam engine and no religious court ordered him burned alive.

If the velociraptor had not bet everything on the black thirteen in the Chicxulub casino…

 

[Justo Miranda]

If in 31 BC Cleopatra's fleet had inflicted a humiliating defeat on the Roman fleet, using superior technology... That could have been the catalyst for change.

Battle of Actium - Wikipedia

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