Question About Alan Muntz Radical Airplane Projects ?

[hesham]

Hi,

the British designer,Mr. Alan Muntz,who formed Airwork Ltd. company in 1928,and
followed by Alan Muntz & Co.,as I know he created many radical airplane Projects,
included Douglas (Turbinlite) Havoc NF.II and Youngman-Baynes High Lift aircraft.

Still there some unknown radical aircraft Projects,has anyone any idea about them ?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Muntz

 

[Schneiderman]

Muntz was very much a businessman rather than an aeronautical engineer. His company, Alan Muntz and Co Ltd certainly held many patents but these were mostly for improvements to engines, gas generators and compressors. I don't believe that he ever designed an aircraft, the four or so that were associated with his company were the work of the head of his aviation division, Leslie Everett Baynes.
Alan Muntz and Co Ltd was involved in the development of the Turbinlite searchlight and designed the modifications necessary to install one in a Havoc for trials. They also used components from a Proctor to build a simple aircraft to test Youngman's flaps. So in both cases not really an aircraft design, just a simple adaption to test equipment.

 

[hesham]

Thank you for explanation Schneiderman,

but as Mr. Bill Gunston mentioned in his book about those radical Projects,maybe he meant
they belonged to Baynes rather than Muntz ?!.

 

[Schneiderman]

Yes, that is correct. The patents for those designs are in the joint names of Leslie Baynes and Alan Muntz & Co Ltd. It is/was standard practice for British patents to be applied for by the creator of the idea and the company for which they worked.

 

[hesham]

Yes, that is correct. The patents for those designs are in the joint names of Leslie Baynes and Alan Muntz & Co Ltd. It is/was standard practice for British patents to be applied for by the creator of the idea and the company for which they worked.

Was there any other patents for them,rather than Youngman-Baynes airplane ?,all I know
this tilt-rotor airplane.

http://www.google.com.na/patents/US2230370

 

[Schneiderman]

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=526105A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19400911&DB=&locale=en_EP
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=526104A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19400911&DB=&locale=en_EP
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=664058A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19510102&DB=&locale=en_EP
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=713525A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19540811&DB=&locale=en_EP

These are the ones for aircraft designs, there are several others for windscreens, land vehicles etc.

 

[hesham]

Great find Schneiderman,and we can put them here.

 

[Schneiderman]

Plus this one

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=578043A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19460613&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

[hesham]

Plus this one

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=578043A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19460613&DB=&locale=en_EP

Amazing one.

 

[Jemiba]

That may be the tank carrying flying wing, the Baynes Carrier Wing was
built as a test vehicle for.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,724.msg174637.html#msg174637

 

[Schneiderman]

Oh yes, so it is!
Baynes started his design career with gliders, notably the Abbott-Baynes Scud, the MKII version of which is in the Shuttleworth Collection.