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Reading through threads on the All the Worlds' Battlecruisers forum I was struck by two covering Fisher/Vickers proposals for diesel powered capital ships, they ignited a memory I had of reading about a single cylinder diesel test unit Vickers had produced prior to the War that seemed relevant.
It was, at least in part, sponsored by the Admiralty. Work on the unit began in 1911, it was described as being 1,000hp, was in construction in 1912 and 1914, according to an article in a 1914 edition of The Steamship journal, it ran continuously for 9 days as part of an Admiralty inspection. The specific details of this cylinder can be found in this PDF document at Chapter 4a, pg.58, and I have reproduced them below for ease:
This test cylinder is obviously not a perfect match for that proposed for Incomparable, that would have required 1,250-1,500hp cylinders, but it does show the Admiralty at least looked at large diesel engines for surface warships and hardware was produced. Diesels were also considered for destroyers pre WW1, a 1,000hp unit built by Thornycroft (licensed from the Diesel Engine Co., who were associated with Carels, of Ghent) was proposed as a cruise engine to provide upto 12 knots in HMS Hardy. Steam turbines would be used for higher speeds, this installation was never undertaken.
All the Worlds' Battlecruisers Diesel Incomparable thread
All the Worlds' Battlecruisers Diesel G3 thread
In Germany, Tirpitz was interested in diesel engines for battleships at abut the same time, this old link has some interesting details.
It was, at least in part, sponsored by the Admiralty. Work on the unit began in 1911, it was described as being 1,000hp, was in construction in 1912 and 1914, according to an article in a 1914 edition of The Steamship journal, it ran continuously for 9 days as part of an Admiralty inspection. The specific details of this cylinder can be found in this PDF document at Chapter 4a, pg.58, and I have reproduced them below for ease:
The Admiralty became interested in the possibilities of large marine crosshead engines for propulsion of surface ships and was instrumental in the erection of an experimental single-cylinder two-stroke engine which ran trials at Barrow during 1913.1 Vickers subsequently intended that single-cylinder would form the basis of a future six-cylinder engine capable of developing 4,476 kW.l Authorization for construction of this engine. designated No 428, was granted by the Admiralty in 1911 but because of the experimental and secretive nature of the project no information was available at the time and details of the trials were not published until 1921. When running at 140rpm the engine was designed to develop 746kW from its 762mm bore by 914mm cylinder but in full load tests achieved greater output. Details of the 72 hour full load trial were as follows;'
Injection Air Pressure Bar: 74.5
Fuel Consumption kg/kw.hr: 0.25
Cylinder Lubrication Consumption litres/hr: 5.9
RPM: 141
Brake Power Kw: 777.2
Indicated Power Kw: 840
MEP Bar: 8.56
Mechanical Efficiency %: 92.53
Considerable thought went into the design of the engine, particularly with respect to materials, as at that time little was known about the thermal problems of large two- stroke cycle engine cylinders. The cylinder cover was considered to be a critical component in this respect and the original design employed a cast steel cover but this cracked after a period of running. A cure for this trouble was the fitting of a 51mm thick forged steel plate on the lower face of the cover, this being bossed up to 76mm thickness in way of the air inlet valves. This form of cylinder cover construction was patented by Vickers and developed as the standard for subsequent large mercantile engines.
The water-cooled cylinder was supported by two columns which also located the crosshead guides. Scavenging of the cylinder was via four water-cooled valves in the cover, air being supplied by an electrically driven rotary blower. This arrangement of scavenging would have assisted in keeping the cover cool but it meant that exhaust gas had to pass out of the cylinder through ports in the lower part of the liner. The piston was of composite construction, the upper portion being of cast steel and water-cooled, water being supplied and removed by means of the hollow piston rod and telescopic pipes attached to the crosshead. The engine was designed for blast injection of fuel and the main series of trials ran with this arrangement although trouble was experienced with the blast air compressors. In the meantime Vickers had developed a system for solid injection of fuel and the experimental engine was modified to operate with this, air injection fittings being used as far as possible. Results were encouraging with mean cylinder pressures up to 8.625 bar being achieved."
Although the Admiralty had sponsored the experimental engine with a view to diesel propulsion of warships and fleet replenishment tankers, Vickers were optimistic that, on a slightly reduced rating, it would form the basis of a high powered engine for mercantile purposes. The war, however, intervened and mercantile engine development had to wait.
This test cylinder is obviously not a perfect match for that proposed for Incomparable, that would have required 1,250-1,500hp cylinders, but it does show the Admiralty at least looked at large diesel engines for surface warships and hardware was produced. Diesels were also considered for destroyers pre WW1, a 1,000hp unit built by Thornycroft (licensed from the Diesel Engine Co., who were associated with Carels, of Ghent) was proposed as a cruise engine to provide upto 12 knots in HMS Hardy. Steam turbines would be used for higher speeds, this installation was never undertaken.
All the Worlds' Battlecruisers Diesel Incomparable thread
All the Worlds' Battlecruisers Diesel G3 thread
In Germany, Tirpitz was interested in diesel engines for battleships at abut the same time, this old link has some interesting details.
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