Polish PZL M-38 « Bryza » aircraft used for U.S. Army Special Ops

[Stargazer]

Joe Baugher's website mentions a batch of four PZL M-38 Bryza aircraft that are used by the US Special Ops Command. Does anyone have any info about these, even possibly pictures?

Here is what the M-38 looks like in Polish guise:

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/582/PZL_M-38_Bryza_-_6.jpg

 

[TomS]

The M28 is the Skytruck, Poland's version of the An-28 with Western turboprops. USSOCOM ordered a bunch of those in 2009 for shuttling small teams around in forward areas.The M38 number seems to be wrong--PZL doesn't use that designation for any version of the Skytruck. (And Baugher's websites says M28, not M38)

Here's a brief article, with a picture, about the USSOCOM aircraft:

http://www.estesbog.com/2009/05/pzl-mi-28-usafs-new-special-ops-plane

 

[firepilot]

Wierd timing..

I just saw one of these yesterday flying over Albuquerque, and I was trying to figure out what it was.

 

[hesham]

What about this site;

http://www.militaryimages.net/media/pzl-m-38-bryza.5434/

 

[dan_inbox]

FWIW, this maritime patrol version was called PZL M-28B1R Bryza-1R at Radom 2003-08-29.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Dan.

 

[walter]

I think the designation C-145A (Combat Coyote) was assigned to the AFSOC/SOCOM PZL M28 aircraft in May 2012. Up to 16 examples may have been aqcuired and one was reportedly tested as mini gunship (two 0.50in machine guns) .

 

[autoeac]

http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&p=709480
Google search brings up quite a few images of this plane—none with and national markings.

 

[TomcatViP]

Meet The MC-145B Wily Coyote Armed Special Ops Transport Plane

The converted Polish transport aircraft is one of five aircraft U.S. Special Operations Command is testing as part of its Armed Overwatch program.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Mark Nankivil]

We have had a few visit our airport over the past few years - good looking aircraft.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[TomcatViP]

Any of those nice pics to share?

 

[yasotay]

I am told it is a very solid aircraft, a mix of eastern pragmatism on design and western enhancement. Lands in ugly (short) places and is easy for less well trained/equipped air forces to train and fly on. Truly a flying pick up truck.

 

[muttbutt]

I'd just like to say...I like the name...

 

[Silencer1]

Could moderators change the topic' name to appropriate M28? Or/and mention MC-145B?

 

[skippyscage]

I have one or two photos on my site of those C-145A

skippyscage aviation search engine - media

AFSOC had 16 of them, but over the last few years they've downsized the fleet to around 5 or so. The rest when to either the AZ Police or into storage at AMARC, with one also going to a private owner.

Since then at least 5 have been flown out of the boneyard - 2 went to the Estonian Air Force, 2 have gone to the Kenyan Air Force with another to follow.

The Wily Coyote aircraft referenced above is a new build aircraft from the Polish Factory delivered to SNC in June last year for modification.

 

[TomS]

So

Meet The MC-145B Wily Coyote Armed Special Ops Transport Plane

The converted Polish transport aircraft is one of five aircraft U.S. Special Operations Command is testing as part of its Armed Overwatch program.

www.thedrive.com

So, the Wily Coyote plane can deploy the Coyote UAS. That's not going to be confusing...

(Honestly, it won't be for the operators, because everything is going to be referred to by call sign or brevity codes, not official program names. But the repetition is amusing.)

This actually looks like a very valuable capability. Launches from short/rough fields in theater under direct opcon of the local SOF commanders, loiters as needed, and can deploy both direct fire and standoff weapons. MALD and SDB are probably pushing things a bit but the rest makes perfect sense.

 

[shin_getter]

The Armed Overwatch program has striked me as overlapping too much with the existing drone fleet. This vehicle is however is different enough.

Perhaps one can rerun the original hind operating concept of both carrying the infantry and providing fire support in a single airframe.

 

[TomcatViP]

@skippyscage : Thank you. Amazing archive.
What is the Grey patching running all over that can be seen on some of them?

 

[yasotay]

@skippyscage : Thank you. Amazing archive.
What is the Grey patching running all over that can be seen on some of them?

Corrosion control I suspect. Those platforms, while in AFSOC, went to some places that did not have air conditioned hangers.

 

[skippyscage]

the patches were applied when they were put into storage at AMARC as protection.

as an asside regarding it's performance - when SNC had the white hack aircraft, they used it for USAF pilot training locally. I watched them perform stop and goes with one engine completely shut down and feathered - it climbed like it was still running on two engines, Very overpowered and very impressive.

 

[skippyscage]

and if you like M28 here are the rest to add some perspective

M28 - the last one is the one that's being converted in this thread

M28-1BR

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Any of those nice pics to share?

Still looking for the other visit but here is one from August, 2012. Cannot believe it has been that long....

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Any of those nice pics to share?

Still looking for the other visit but here is one from August, 2012. Cannot believe it has been that long....

Another hide in plain sight type we have had visit is the Do328. Though I think this one needs paved surfaces....

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[yasotay]

Superb photos! Not sure of the nomenclature for the Dornier, but I believe they are called "Greyhound". They do indeed require prepared surfaces to operate.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[skippyscage]

Superb photos! Not sure of the nomenclature for the Dornier, but I believe they are called "Greyhound". They do indeed require prepared surfaces to operate.

Thanks for sharing.

Wolfhound

 

[TomcatViP]

Nice pictures indeed. Thank you for sharing @Mark Nankivil!

 

[LowObservable]

So

Meet The MC-145B Wily Coyote Armed Special Ops Transport Plane

The converted Polish transport aircraft is one of five aircraft U.S. Special Operations Command is testing as part of its Armed Overwatch program.

www.thedrive.com

So, the Wily Coyote plane can deploy the Coyote UAS. That's not going to be confusing...

(Honestly, it won't be for the operators, because everything is going to be referred to by call sign or brevity codes, not official program names. But the repetition is amusing.)

This actually looks like a very valuable capability. Launches from short/rough fields in theater under direct opcon of the local SOF commanders, loiters as needed, and can deploy both direct fire and standoff weapons. MALD and SDB are probably pushing things a bit but the rest makes perfect sense.

Where's the anvil?

 

[yasotay]

I was thinking of the episode where he (Wiley) drops a bunch of ACME gliding dynimite from a balloon. The dynamite then plagues him for the rest of the episode.

 

[TomcatViP]

U.S. Special Forces evaluates strike capabilities of Coyote aircraft

Private contractor Sierra Nevada Corporation (SNC) announced that it has demonstrated the multi-role strike capabilities of the MC-145B Coyote aircraft at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida as part of the U.S. Special Operations Command’s (USSOCOM) Armed Overwatch program. SNC is partnered with PZL...

defence-blog.com

 

[RavenOne]

Have seen AFSOC C-145 albeit in civvy blue and white paint scheme turn up at Mildenhall few years back and now

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...wily-coyote-armed-special-ops-transport-plane

Built by heir Polish subsidiary of Sikorsky -PZL-Milec anyhow now

Lockheed Martin showcases new attack aircraft designed to support US special operations forces

Lockheed Martin's Polish subsidiary PZL Mielec showcased its new manned light attack aircraft designed to support U.S. special operations forces in permissive environments. The new MC-145B Special Operations Multi-Role Aircraft (SOMA) features multi-role strike capabilities. PZL Mielec is...

defence-blog.com

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[yasotay]

?? I am confused. I thought Sierra Nevada Corp., was the prime for the Wiley Coyote?

Are both vendors promoting the same core platform?

Ah! Never mind, duh! Sikorsky is now a wholly owned subsidiary of LMCO.